36 points

$30 to not have to deal with Windows 11 for another year feels like the deal of the century.

I love how they’re like ‘but you won’t get new features!’. They may have still not figured out that nobody cares about ‘new features’ being stuffed into the OS, but I guess you can’t have everything.

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9 points

literally feeding the troll.

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91 points

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9 points

I just want all windows games to run on linux with equivalent performance and without anticheat hurdles. After that happens i’m done with windows.

Honestly, i’m really not that far off as-is. Steam Deck already runs most of my library, it’s just the games that don’t work with a controller that are a problem.

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35 points

This is already true for the vast majority of games. 🤷‍♂️

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5 points
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You can get a dock and plug in a mouse and keyboard, a monitor, etc…

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6 points

I just want all windows games to run on linux with equivalent performance and without anticheat hurdles. After that happens i’m done with windows.

That’s one strategy. Mine is to just say “fuck it” until the devs and studios make their games more playable on Linux. I can deal with not playing some games to make that happen. That’s not for everyone though.

Switching to a better non-mainstream alternative to anything always brings some compatibility pains until enough are doing it to where the tide shifts. I accept this.

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7 points

Linux will get multiplayer game support from those straggler game companies when people show the userbase is there. They will always follow the money. So if you stay with Windows the devs won’t support Linux. So saying “I’ll move to Linux once they support it”, will ensure they will never support it.

My suggestion is to dual-boot for now and keep putting pressure on the game devs to support Linux. It’s important to dual boot and run as many games on Linux as possible for now to show in the steam metrics that more people are leaving Windows.

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4 points

As do I buddy, as do I.

But unfortunately, we only get “most” games running on Linux w/ similar if not equivalent performance. Unfortunately, game devs for some reason refuse to support Linux w/ their anti-cheat implementations (even if the anti-cheat solution works fine on Linux), so getting to 100% is going to take some time and a lot of people shifting to Linux despite not every game working perfectly. Most do though.

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0 points

Totally thought for a split second that the white thing on the bottom right was the apple logo

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0 points

Consider that Microsoft will have supported Windows 10 for 10 years as of next year, I will say it had a good run. Considering the longest support cycle for an OS I can find that is even remotely usable as a daily is Slackware 14.1, at 9 years, and support ended for that almost a year ago.

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-3 points

A subscription for continued support seems fair. (If there are no ads).

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15 points

And at this point I don’t trust Microsoft to not stuff them in there as a “last update for Windows 10”

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14 points

Are you serious? It’s Microsoft.

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6 points

No it doesn’t. We have any number of free and open source operating systems to choose from that are already more secure. The number of people in a situation where they absolutely need to run Windows specifically is small.

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Someone has to pay for that work. Either volunteers are donating their time, corporations “donate” work of their employees or hire it out because use of the project generates profits for them and they recognize not everyone can be a parasite (The FOSS model)

The other alternative is users paying directly.

If you want to use a closed source os, then pay for updates or you will be monetized on other ways. (In the case of MS that would be ads or the OS is just an incidental product used to drive sales of software or cloud computing)

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19 points

Windows hasn’t added any features of value since Windows 7.

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24 points

I mean, the HDR support and multi window snapping, as well as remembering window positions on multiple displays.

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17 points

Counterpoint, if you have two monitors with different DPI scaling, window dimensions get butchered when moving between them

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2 points

I have never found HDR to be helpful. Every time I turn it on it seems to think what I want was not better colors, but for all my colors to be extremely washed out on every screen.

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4 points

Powertoys and fancyzones in particular has been amazing with the proliferation of large monitors. Saves so much time and effort to configure windows. Don’t understand why it is an optional utility and not built into the OS.

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0 points

Windows hasn’t added any features of value since Windows 7 XP

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2 points

I was going to say XP, but 7 is so much better an experience than XP.

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6 points

Uhh, driver support and networking have vastly improved since Windows XP.

If you had ever done a clean reinstall of XP, you’d know what a pain it was to make sure you had your NIC drivers on a floppy or USB drive before you started.

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feels like the deal of the century.

For Microsoft, sure. If they capture all Windows 10 machines, they’re in for a $21 billion payday. If they get half of them, $10 billion. A quarter, $5 billion. An eighth, $2.5 billion.

Your $30 in aggregate is only a deal for Microsoft. They’ll ask for another $30 a year after that and now you’ve normalized paying for security updates.

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10 points

If you think that’s a good deal, I have some NFTs to sell you.

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2 points

I think it’s fairly optimistic to believe that they’ll stop bugging you with the Windows 11 upgrade even if you do pay $30.

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14 points
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If Microsoft wants to buy me a new computer to get me off Win10, they’re more than welcome to.

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1 point

I just installed the latest version of Debian on a 12 year old netbook. Just sayin.

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5 points

I’m assuming that’s a Linux thing, because no one asked.

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-1 points

Oh, you don’t have to ask.

I do this for free even!

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39 points

“Enrolled PCs will continue to receive Critical and Important security updates for Windows 10; however, new features, bug fixes, and technical support will no longer be available from Microsoft,” explains Yusuf Mehdi, executive vice president and consumer chief marketing officer at Microsoft.

Don’t threaten me with a good time.

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38 points

Anyone who’s had to open a Microsoft support ticket can assure you technical support is already not available from Microsoft.

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7 points

You have to be a really, really big company with an established connection with Microsoft to actually talk to the real engineers. Any tier of regular support only gets you the “sfc and clean boot” garbage.

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4 points

Duh, they want the money

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Fuck that. I already paid for the Pro edition of 10 specifically for features Windows 11 doesn’t have in any version. IDGAF if it’s free; it’s not an upgrade. It’s a downgrade.

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4 points

I’m a windows user (on my game computers) and have never paid for windows lawl. I’m not about to start now.

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152 points
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I like all the comments ready to take a fisting in the ass from Microsoft just to keep Windows 10.

If you raised a fucking stink instead of taking this shitty deal, they may be forced to keep supporting it for free anyway like they did with Windows 7.

They’ve really got you guys cowed into paying for the convenience of getting fucked, don’t they?

This is a company with a market cap of $3.04 trillion and you guys are just gonna bend over and take it for $30 bucks? Wew lad. They don’t need your fucking thirty dollars, and you fucking know it. It’s a god damned shakedown.

Microsoft: Wouldn’t it be a shame if your computer was somehow insecure and got hacked?

Sounds like a Mafioso showing up for protection money to me.

EDIT: There’s still about 700 million Windows 10 PC’s still on the market. If every single existing Windows 10 machine paid for this service, Microsoft would make $21 billion dollars next year off this alone. It’s a shakedown, do the fucking math. (700,000,000 x $30 = $21,000,000,000) Even if only half do it, it’s still a cool $10.5 billion.

EDIT II: This also normalizes the practice of paying for security updates for consumers. You really want to take us down that path where every security update is paid?

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21 points

Microsoft: heh heh heh, looks like you’ll be paying me $30 for that windows 10 installation.

Me: Bitch, I’m on Windows 7, and keep ignoring the OS bitching at me to turn the firewall on!

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32 points

if that is connected to the internet, its probably infested

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13 points

It’s fiiiiiiine! What’s the worst that could happen?

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11 points

It would make sense if Microsoft was liable for any security faults. I’d actually pay for something like that but of course you’re probably paying for some nebulous promise of something between security at best effort basis and whatever they feel like.

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-6 points

What an idiotic perspective. Microsoft has supported W10 for literally 12 years at the cutoff date. Show me another software product that receives TWELVE YEARS worth of free support. 30 bucks is fair enough. For enterprises this is play money, if you are a private, you could upgrade fucking 7 keys. Which means, you didn’t need to pay a fucking cent to MS since 2007. No one has ever matched this kinda support. Ten percent of this is considered fucking generous.

And herre is a thought for you. The reason why windows is full of adware and spyware is precisely because of dickheads, who won’t pay 30 fucking dollars EVERY TWENTY YEARS. This is your fault.

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