What the fuck do I care what europoors think? I don’t like Jill Stein but they should mind their own business! In America we understand that a country’s domestic politics are only the citizens’ business, that’s why we don’t involve ourselves in any foreign country’s domestic matters
Jfc…
- It’s their, not there.
- Climate change does not care about your borders. So of course actual proper Green parties care about green foreign politics.
- You’re literally in everyone’s face when it comes to other countries.
That last line tips into “has to be sarcasm” territory. I don’t think anyone believes America doesn’t meddle.
That’s rich. I’m American, too, but the whole isolationist stance is bs. They are our allies, and whatever happens here effects them as well. You fell for the propaganda, champ.
Also, it’s funny that you don’t choose not to see how much our own country involves itself in the affairs of other countries. Every American knows this.
Breaking news: people with an actual commitment to environmentalism recognize Jill Stein for the obvious Russian shill and extreme threat to environmentalism she is. More at 11.
Decomposition releases greenhouse gases. Better for her to preserve herself in a peat bog or something.
Stein pulling out wouldn’t result in more votes for Harris. It would just make more people stay home. I think they’re more worried about greens hitting the 5% national threshold.
Stop assuming these votes are stolen from Harris. She hasn’t earned them.
Say you need a life saving operation. Your choices are: a skilled surgeon who is suspected to have cheated on their spouse, George Clooney from the hit TV show ER, or a mediocre at best veterinarian. This is essentially the state of things. A qualified person, a fictional character, and a person who is tangentially qualified at best.
The country needs a life saving operation. Harris is extremely qualified candidate who at worst carries some of the murky ethical baggage of any career politician. Trump is not only unqualified, but uniquely contraindicated (vindictive, foreign debts, exceedingly old, litany of bonafide legal issues, unrepentant rapist). And Stein is at best a politician shaped object, who is perhaps qualified enough to be a pundit or a podcast host.
For the safety of people of color, for women, for the environment, for the rule of law, for diplomacy, for the economy, there is only one pragmatic choice, and that choice is Harris.
Nothing in Harris’ record shows she’s qualified. She’s done a measurably shit job in every position she’s been in.
Really, nothing at all qualifies her? Not her 6 years as an attorney general? Or her 4 years as a senator? Her 3 years as vice president? She’s better educated, has a better resume, doesn’t have 30 something felonies, and isn’t 78 years old. We already tried Trump as president once and America survived by the skin of our teeth. And he has not improved as a candidate in any way in the intervening 4 years.
She hasn’t earned them.
The binary choice and the risks of failure have been mentioned so many times, that I worry for people who don’t get it.
Both candidates support genocide. A binary choice would be an improvement from what we have now.
At best, one candidate doesn’t do enough to oppose genocide, while the other candidate offers their full throated support, advising that Isreal “just finish the job”. We’re not looking for a perfect candidate, we’re looking for the best candidate. And there is absolutely a candidate with a better track record of compassion, and a likelier chance of fighting the fire rather than fueling it in exchange for political favors.
Why would European Greens be worried about the Greens getting more than 5%
I suspect they’re acting as controlled opposition to absorb activist energies. They’re openly shepherding activist voters to a capitalist party in this action.
Wasn’t aware there was an anti-capitalist candidate running, but that’s beside the point. Why do you accuse other countries’ parties of controlled opposition? This doesn’t make any sense. Are you saying they’re propping up Kamala. Many European greens are more left than Stein
You mean Russian Asset Jill Stein?
I was talking about intentional spoiler candidate for Trump whom Republicans are scrambling to get on as many ballots as possible Jill Stein, but maybe we’re talking about the same person here.
A nation that sent his troops on an invasion without boots and helmets controls ¾ of the candidates of the most powerful and advanced nation in the world that spend 10 times as much money in war and propaganda than everyone else, that has thousand military facilities around the globe, that has the biggest mass surveillance network ever seen in history with satellites capable of snooping at every inch of the planet at any given time.
That’s what you are saying.
Yeah that’s what I am saying. Trump is definitely compromised, for example. And he’s not the only one, look at the Hungarian PM. They would sell their ass if Putin asked so.
I see these comments a lot and I’d like to learn more. Do you have any articles on this?
Well, start here at a dinner she attended in Moscow in late 2015:
Years later, after Trump was elected, she claimed it was just perfunctory, with no real interaction with Putin. She also claims she received no payment for being there, although we know Flynn received 45k from Putin for his attendance.
Then there is this from 2016 about Russian efforts to divert Clinton voters to stein. She also received intense press coverage by RT, Russians propaganda TV station, that was not banned in the US at the time.
Here she is refusing to call Putin a war criminal, a stance she suddenly recanted days later.
Here is evidence she is currently working with the GOP.
According to the lesser evil logic receiving money from putin is still less evil than being a fascist or being supporting a genocide.
“But I’ve finally gotten David Duke on board!”
