For a while now I have been a Brother evangelist because they just worked, they did not lock you into first party only printing supplies, and they were overall a good value.

THEN: my printer firmware auto updated and suddenly my toner cartridges were no longer recognized. Its not that they ran out and I put in new ones, simply the ones that had previously worked (3rd party already) just stopped and it reported an error.

I managed to find a guide on downgrading the firmware, and now I am back up and running and auto update is turned off. I am also saving all the little chips from the Brother branded cartridges.

So Dear Brother Printers, Please choke on a bag of dicks. I spent $500ish on a laser color printer so I would not have to deal with the shitification that has happened to inkjet. Seeing hostile and profiteering consumer behavior from other printer companies you decided to copy them for short term gains.

Well I will no longer recommend your products, and I will go out of my way to fix and downgrade your older printers with the sole purposes of putting them back into use and costing you new sales.

1 down, 1 in the cue, feel free to stop being anti consumer and breaking hardware we already paid for.

URL referencing the last time I know they got caught messing with Firmwares: https://www.therecycler.com/posts/new-firmware-updates-affect-aftermarket-cartridges/

108 points

Hm, I feel Brother was the last brand which didn’t do that, are there any alternatives?

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Oh, that article is also from 2019

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I bought a new Brother laser printer in 2021 and it has no problem with third party toners.

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I actually had a little bit of a panic attack because I just bought a shit tonne of toner for my Brother and I was afraid I might get locked out of it, but I just bought this printer last year and it’s not giving me any hassle with third party toner.

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wtf. well. I guess I’ll have to block this user just in case it’s a spam bot.

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I don’t think there’s any point on spamming articles just for points since there’s no algorithm that would weight their future posts higher. Please just assume the poster had good intentions and found it interesting and wanted to share.

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changed it to a link at the bottom of the post because people were confused, I linked to the last time brother was caught doing it by “press” but all the most recent examples are on Reddit, and I wont drive clicks to Reddit.

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Yeah I linked it because it was the best one I could find that was not Reddit.

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I’d recommend the Epson EcoTank series. They don’t use cartridges, the ink comes in bottles and are quite cheap and lasts a while. They are inkjet tho, unless you’re doing lots if colour printing, theyre ok. Not sure if theres 3rd party inks.

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My wife has bought 3 of them for her sublimation projects, they’ve all been great. The only issue I’ve had is the god damn windows 11 PC she runs that kills the tcpip port I set up, which deletes her color profiles.

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How does killing a tcp port delete color profiles?

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Get a laser printer. The initial cost is a bit higher, but toner is much cheaper than ink in the long run, and it doesn’t run dry

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They don’t. This article is a 4 year old hoax.

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This article is from 20-fkin-19. Why are we posting such old articles? I just bought a Brother DCP-T820DW and 3rd party ink bottles still work even when I updated it’s firmware.

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OP said (paraphrasing) “here’s the last time they got caught doing what they just did to me” when they linked it. It’s an addendum to their rant, not the main focus of it.

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This has been happening for a few years now, yet, I don’t know why people still keep recommending Brother. I guess not all models are affected by this? But it’s likely only a matter of time though until they push it out to all printers.

What we really need is open hardware printers. I mean, if we can put together frikkin 3D printers on our own these days, surely putting together a regular 2D printer should be a much more easier task. Or maybe there just isn’t any demand for 2D printers these days to justify such a project.

Alternatively: just use an online printing service, most of them even mail your printouts to you so you don’t even need to step out of your home, and this will likely be a far cheaper option for casual users who rarely print stuff. Another option is local libraries, at least where I live, they allow you to take free printouts for upto 10 pages, and following that it’s only 1c per page.

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Open source would be amazing!

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Yeah I’d go for an open source printer in a heartbeat. I’m so tired of this nonsense.

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A printer being stupid (and Xerox’s refusal to give him the source code so he could fix it) was precisely what led Stallman to start the open source software movement.

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Same

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Same what?

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I think Brother is typically recommended because their laser printers aren’t anti-consumer bullshit, and are generally well built and supported.

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* weren’t

At least as of three years ago, even their laser printers have started being subject to enshittification.

Eg: https://old.reddit.com/r/printers/comments/s9b2eg/brother_mfc_firmware_update_nongenuine_toner_now/

And seems to me that this has become even worse since then. See this comment from less than a month ago:

This is a disgusting and unethical practice. I got bricked out of my mfc l3770cdw last week after unconsciously updating the new firmware bc of a data remaining in memory error that refused to clear on the screen. Not only could I not print, I also could not scan to desktop which baffles me since NO toner/ink is needed for that job! I was paying $70/3rd party toner set every 6 months and now have to pay $300+/set just to satisfy shareholder returns. This just adds to my list of why humans suck! I wouldn’t mind paying more for the equipment and then having the freedom to use whichever 3rd party has the best supply price or even double for the set that 3rd parties charge. Too many companies are engaging in this practice and something drastically needs to be done about this bs!

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I’d love an open source 2d printer.

I imagine the hardest part would be engineering a sheet feeder (unless you use tractor feed paper, lol)

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Misleading; this article is from 2019. I don’t believe they do this anymore.

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Yeah I was a previous fan of brother. Just worked in Linux. But if this story is true, not cool.

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