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Just goes to show that the average person is indeed

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“I don’t judge you for your political party” hurrr fucking durr from a tiny mind trying to sound intelligent

The Fucking Republicans have been threatening and working towards ripping away protects from Brown people since The Southern Strategy in 1964, Andrea Junker trying to be cute, going high, and ridiculously trying to split this hair is insulting to the decades of fighting Democrats had to wage to keep Roe, and Voting Rights as long as they did while the Fucking Republicans tried every Congress under every President to strip them away

If you vote Fucking Republican, you are a Fucking Racist, and I blame you squarely for both who you vote for, and what political fucking party you belong to

“I don’t judge you …” fuck off I need a shower

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tfw you read the first sentence but don’t make it to the second ;(

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Ironically i had the same urge reading the first sentence of their comment. After reading the whole thing, I feel kind of dumb hoping to find redemption by the end of it.

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I certainly do judge any Trump voter as being either terribly naive or a truly bad person. However, broadcasting that message is going to change nothing and only serves as copium for the anti-Trump crowd.

What is going to sway people who have voted for Trump in the past and are not completely lost to the cult of personality is being a champion for radical change that benefits the middle class. The Harris platform evidently did not go far enough to convince enough voters they would see any meaningful change. Nor did the Clinton or Biden platforms, Biden was only lucky enough that his policies were effectively irrelevant in contest with Trump’s disastrous mishandling of the COVID-19 pandemic response.

We can’t hope for another deadly crisis to get us out of this one.

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If champion for radical change that benefits the middle class was that important Trump would not have won.

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I would argue that he most definitely is a champion for radical change and that’s why he won. “Drain the swamp”, “Dictator on day one”, " He says it like it is" are all things that deviate dramatically from the status quo of political etiquette. Trump is willing to break political norms to get what he wants and evidently voters think his interests align with their own.

Obviously, this isn’t the kind of radical change you or I are hoping for but it certainly is radical. Meanwhile, the Dems are playing it safe in an attempt to appeal broadly and not upset too many people. And we’ve seen for the last decade that gets us at best legislation which has been gutted to the point where it does effectively nothing for the majority of Americans.

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Student loan forgiveness, ACA, CHIPS act, the Inflation Reduction Act, and the Bipartisan Infrastructure were all huge gains for the majority of Americans

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What about the lack of turnout for KH? Am I reading the results wrong ? Was there not massive amounts on non voters? As much as I hate republicans the fence setters an uninformed have fucked us all outside the US

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John Oliver’s segment on Palestinians really cemented it for me: if your family was killed by a missile sold to them by Biden, it’s really difficult to support his successor.

Sure you may not want the orange turd either.

But imagine the heartache of voting for the person related to the one who is responsible for the death of your family.

I know I can’t. And a part of me feels for them.

What upset me the most is that Harris used Hilary’s election plan verbatim. No one stopped to tell Harris that Clinton lost.

Sanders warned her that if she wants a good turn out, she needs to have a plan for the working class.

Instead she wasted weeks trying to get Republican endorsements instead of trying to shore up her base.

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I chose to vote for Harris despite this because Trump would be no better on this, so effectively the issue wasn’t up for vote and I could only vote on the other issues that were different between them. But very bluntly, I don’t blame Arabs and Muslims for not voting for Harris. They have one of the strongest grievances one could possibly have (i.e. second only to attacks directly on them personally, in the U.S.), and the dismissiveness from Biden (and Harris) was downright insulting.

A part of me does feel like Biden chose Israel over Americans. I don’t know if changing course on this would have changed the election, and I guess it’s impossible to truly know.

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What upset me the most is that Harris used Hilary’s election plan verbatim.

She absolutely did not. Hillary leaned into the gender card hardcore. She had her supporters wearing t-shirts saying “I’m with her” with an arrow sign. She said “I’m not saying you should vote for me because I’m a woman, you should vote for me because of my qualifications. But one of my qualifications is…I’M A WOMAN!!!”

Kamala didn’t lean into any of this demographics, gender war trash. She (wisely) followed Barack Obama’s playbook of leaving the identify politics crap at the door. She lost for other reasons. Hillary alienated voters by leaning too hard into identity politics. Kamala ran a much better campaign than Hillary. They are not the same. Why Kamala lost will be debated for some time at least, but it will not be concluded reasonably that she lost for the same reasons Hillary lost in 2016. I know people want to conclude that women just can’t get elected, but we haven’t yet had a female candidate that ran a great campaign. As someone who wants our first female president, I have to reluctantly admit that we’ve been underserved by our female politicians thus far. I have high hopes for AOC in the future, but we’ll have to wait and see how that plays out. I don’t actually think Kamala did anything wrong in her campaign; I just think she was working against the legacy set by her predecessor, and it was too much. That, and too many American voters are stupid, ignorant, misguided voters. And, probably, some Pro-Palestinian voters had their heads up their asses.

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2020 election saw massive turnout in favour of DNC. Then Biden did as much as he could to clean up Trump’s mess and make things better.

Kamala trusted that turnout, hoped people will know the work that was done, understand the threat of second Trump presidency, and vote in similar manner again.

In other words she trusted the people to be informed voters. And they backstabbed her.

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My unfortunate observation is the majority of people who voted for Trump don’t pay any attention to current events and basically get their news via rumor. But if you want the true culprit, it’s the 15 million Democrats that voted last time but not this time. The votes for Trump actually went down compared to last time.

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Yea that’s what they’re saying isn’t it. 15 million people vanished out of thin air. Interesting

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Yeah I don’t believe that for a fucking second to be honest with you, and I’m finding it difficult to not go insane with conspiracy theories about MAGA fucking with the vote counts, and becoming the same person I made fun of surrounding Jan 6 - except he has a proven record of being a cheat and all but outright stated his intent to cheat the election. I’m kind of dumbfounded that 3 hours after voting night closes the major news outlets are all reporting a Trump win which they couldn’t possibly know yet, everyone takes this as fact and refuses to investigate any further. Official vote tally and certification isn’t even until mid December by the usual schedule according to .gov sources.

Is it not just a little bit ridiculous to anyone else that in one of the most relentlessly politicized elections of the past century 15+ million people who voted last time suddenly didn’t? 15 million people predominantly of the denominations that Trump and his goons particularly hate and wanted to silence? For that matter does anyone else find it strange that 45% of Latinos voted to deport themselves? I mean, some percentage I could expect, even up to like 20, I’d be disappointed but I’d understand, but 45%??

I am most certainly on some amount of copium here but I am incredibly surprised at the lack of any sort of investigation or push back or god damn anything surrounding what should certainly be contested results, at the very least. This feels very very fishy to me.

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Ap news had a good article about how our voting machines are completely vulnerable to first hand attacks. I think they figured out how to do it. They had a LOT of help.

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Well 114 million people who could have voted this year didn’t. It’s a combination of apathy and laziness. We could be like Australia and mandate the vote.

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It would be such a game changer for the US, there are still people who ‘donkey vote’ which is either leaving a ballot empty or drawing dicks on it, but it means a far more balanced political spectrum.

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