Real answer: Biden has a penis and white skin.

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Facts. Pollsters ran into this nonstop. ‘I don’t like trump but I JUST CAN’T vote for a woman. They’re tOo eMoTiOnAl!!’

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Seriously, fucking racist as fuck ‘left’.

We’re going to have a genocide of brown people right here, but they don’t give the slightest shit.

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Americans have been forcing feeding one another the most vulgar anti-poc propaganda decade after decade for my entire life.

It’s so crazy to hear the handful of college Leftists who picked up a copy of Zinn or ran a union drive at their local Starbucks get blamed for billions of dollars and millions of hours of hate jammed into peoples’ eyeballs and ear holes.

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I reject this beggar mentality that we can’t do better because of how the chessboard stands today - as if it has sat forever unchanged and immutable - Obama stands in stark contrast to that. Clinton (awful politicaly and personally toxic as she was) still won the popular vote against Trump. In 2016 when he lied and ran as an outsider, promising to “drain the swamp”.

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I mean, Harris and the Dems didn’t even try, like seriously. Getting Beyonce and all the other celebrities our fellow moronic Americans already see as members of the illuminati is not trying, it’s literally the opposite

I mean, they spent $50m+ in fuckin Ohio! We lost fuckin Georgia while they were jerking off Cheney’s and trying to convince white folks in the suburbs not to be who they are

It’s legit insane to see the party straightup abandon working class demographics. Then again, this is the same party that now literally spends millions of dollars each primary on getting votes for Republican politicians

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They tried everything except giving Dem voters what they want…

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Which is what exactly? So many captain hindsights here.

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How about some actual progressive policy? Not sure how people like you manage to play ignorance for this long.

You’re being hard headed if you want everyone you argue with in the comments to list exactly what they were looking for. How about you go into chat gpt and ask "what are some progressive policies that Democratic voters want that aren’t being reflected by the DNC and you’ll get exactly what you’re facetiously asking us

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I was excited when Biden dropped out and Harris got this huge surge as the new young, not actively deteriorating candidate, then more excited when she announced Tim Walz and got a mid western, blue collar surge, and cautiously optimistic when everyone was briefly focusing on how anti-democratic and un-American Project 2025 was, but then started getting worried when all I saw running up to the election was stories about abortion rights and women voting against their husbands and celebrity endorsements.

It feels like Obama successfully ran a campaign of Hope and Change, and since then Democrats repeatedly campaign on maintaining the status quo and just not letting it slide too much further. And while it’s possible to win an election on the basis of ‘I’m at least somewhat competent’, it might not be in the US when so much of the population sees how fundamentally broken wealth inequality is at baseline.

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started getting worried when all I saw running up to the election was stories about abortion rights and women voting against their husbands and celebrity endorsements.

That surge when she started was all her campaign. The news and dis/info sources were all caught flat-footed.

They cast around for a few weeks testing what stories would “drive engagement”. Scandals? No. VP pick, like - Who’s it gonna be? No. Did she take any of the demented rapist’s baiting? Nope. Dang.

At the end, they settled on those, and that’s why it seemed different. They (corporate news, mostly) had finally wrested a narrative out of the campaign the campaign didn’t disagree with.

It was thin, a little schlocky, but either true or based on the campaigns ads, so - that got stamped on the campaign, and that’s why you remember that specific set of themes.

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Not discounting anything you wrote here, but it still entertains me when people call the 60 year old Kamala Harris young.

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Fuck I would not have guessed that. She looks 10-20 years younger than that

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In contrast to Biden and Trump she looks 40.

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Compared to Trump and Biden she’s a baby.

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Maintaining the status quo is conservatism.

By definition that’s not what the left wants.

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It was the promise that he could be negotiated to the left.

Instead Joe gave us a country producing the most oil and gas in world history, no movement on healthcare, etc.

The weather is going crazy because of the increase in fossil fuels Biden presided over.

He broke the deal that he could be brought left on economic/environmental/medical issues.

Kamala promised more of the same.

How can you expect anyone to trust the same deal from the VP that the P didn’t make good on?

Joe didn’t deliver, and Kamala didn’t promise anything new.

Four more years of wildfire.

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Yeah, best to go with the guy who says he thinks climate change is a liberal hoax

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Ok, one side says it with actions, but the other says it with actions and words.

That sounds like one side being honest.

Drillin’ Joe was sure acting like it was a hoax!

I voted Kamala, but I understand sitting out.

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Listen, as a brown person in America, just be honest.

You caea about the genocide of brown people elsewhere, just not here.

It’s OK, the vote is over, you don’t have to deny it anymore, we get it, it’s not like we’re surprised or anything, it’s basically America’s legacy.

The shocking part?

We thought you at least cared about women, but you’re literally no better than the racist sexist fascist neoconfederates that are proud to vote Trump.

Just be honest with your words, your actions already spoke the truth.

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Yeah, given the choice between racism, mass deportations, mass incarcerations of trans people, and abuse of the office to punish his political opponents, and none of those things, I can definitely understand staying home too. They were really the same on all the other issues, and those are the ones that matter.

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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

“Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.”

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Believe Climate Change is real, but insist we can’t do anything to stop it as your base is driven insane by the loaming crisis.

Or deny climate change is happening and use your state agents to suppress dissenting views, so that people aren’t terrified all the time.

These are your only two choices.

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Thats how our shitty elections work, yes.

But we all know you don’t give a shit, you probably didn’t even bother to register to vote. Joking about how few extra palestinians would die under trump in that other thread is kind of a giveaway you’re not interested in actually doing anything.

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Joe didn’t deliver, and Kamala didn’t promise anything new.

Joe delivered the Inflation Reduction Act. It invests hundreds of billions of dollars into various climate initiatives over 10 years. That includes renewable generation, grid storage, EV, and nuclear generation. Then there’s infrastructure investment, which included much needed investments in transit and intercity rail.

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Alternative major candidate not left enough? I’ma let the extreme right win in that case, it is for everyone’s benefit!

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And Americans don’t get it. As a Canadian it’s insane watching these people who helped Trump by not voting, jump through hoops to try and justify and blame others for their lack of sense and duty

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Don’t worry, Canada is next. Fascists are making inroads worldwide because neoliberals would rather let the fascists win than have the rich make any less money.

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The vast majority of internet ““leftists”” are MAGA trolls trying to divide.

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A McCarthyist says what?

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It’s interesting that you think “Leftists” comprise tens of millions of votes. I’m flattered, but I don’t think enough people came to the last DSA meeting to make that the most likely possibility.

Most all of the terminally online voted. Nonvoters aren’t here arguing about politics on Lemmy. Leftists have been screaming for months that if the Dems don’t make improving the lives of the working class their main focus, people aren’t going to come out. I wish we had more political engagement too, but sarcastic comments about how people should be more strategic doesn’t seem to be a viable get out the vote strategy. Maybe we should try making people’s lives materially better.

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I don’t understand the “we were to small to matter” argument I’ve been seeing. If that’s true, why on Earth would you expect to matter enough to move the Democratic platform, or to shape society after leftists “burn it all down” (whatever that means)?

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You’re talking about two different numbers.

I’m not sure I said “we’re too small to matter”. But exit polls said that 10% of the electorate cared about Gaza. If everyone who abstained from voting due to Gaza had voted for Harris, she still would have lost.

But what I’m trying to tell you is that the issue is not communists, socialist, and anarchists. Agree with us or not but we are deeply involved in politics and extremely tuned in. (Compared to the average American. I think everyone on a political memes channel on Lemmy is at least paying attention. Everyone reading this is an outlier.)

Leftists tend to conflate leftist policies with “policies that help the working class”. I tend to think the latter is a subset of the former. Democrats need to get out and fight for the working class enough to excite people to come to the polls. It’s not leftists that you need to convince to vote, but the people working three jobs and still having trouble with rent who think that politics doesn’t really affect them. By the time you get that person out, Leftists will be over the moon for you.

I did not say anything about burning anything.

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I don’t think anything about Biden set “the commies on fire”, but he was elected long before 7 October 2023, so he didn’t have to contend with all the well-deserved outrage over US support for Israel’s genocide in Gaza. And yes, I’m well aware it’ll likely get worse under Trump. But not being as bad as the next guy simply doesn’t seem to inspire voter turnout for some reason.

It’s kind of like selling a new brand of chocolate, and advertising it as being “not quite as bad as Hershey’s” (yes, I know, it’s a low bar), then blaming customers for “sitting on the couch” and not buying it. Oh, and lets not forget that both chocolate bars advertise a policy of “10% of profits goes to genocide”.

Democrats are up in arms about people not buying their shitty chocolate bar, when any decent person would just stop eating chocolate if those were the only two options available. But the Democrats refuse to change the recipe or the packaging because it’s their position that nothing needs changing - it’s the voters who are wrong. Does that sound like an argument that’s likely to win over any voters?

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