64 points

Literally Covid. People thoght they were going to die.

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I actually don’t think so. Like I speak with Republicans that are very dismissive of covid still, despite having family members die to it. If people were bothered by his covid response, they would continue to be bothered by the fact Trump shit the covid response. Instead it seems voters think everything was fine during his term (completely uninformed or unaware of the fact that he was impeached twice, raped women, a good friend and neighbor of Epstein, and tried to overthrow the government)

The apathy maybe comes from how Harris was hand picked (because it was so last minute that Biden dropped off) vs us having an actual primary with several democrats.

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Republicans aren’t the ones who didn’t turn out, idk what this has to do with what they think about Trumps covid response. If you want to know why 10 million more democratic voters turned out last time covids gonna play a large factor.

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So covid but not fascist plundering and terrorism. Huh.

Stupid fuckers.

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7 points

And BLM was already out on the streets.

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It ain’t “the commies”.

And he won by an incredibly tiny margin in a handful of states to win, literally no one was “set on fire” for Biden

Progressive policy is popular with the politically disengaged as well as others who are politically engaged

When the ones who are engaged try to warn people someone is a bad candidate and isn’t left enough to motivate the politically disengaged, we magically go back to Salem and you all start blaming us for being able to see the logical conclusion of your dumbass plans.

Run another candidate in 2028 that’s significantly to the right of the Dem voter base and the same shit will happen again.

That’s not a threat, it’s basic logic.

It might not be the candidate you want, but isn’t stopping republican more important than you getting exactly what you want?

Obama ran a progressive campaign and was charismatic…

Why not try that again since moderates over retirement age keeps failing?

Kamala might be like three years younger than Obama now, but he entered the White house 16 years ago

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I mean, Harris and the Dems didn’t even try, like seriously. Getting Beyonce and all the other celebrities our fellow moronic Americans already see as members of the illuminati is not trying, it’s literally the opposite

I mean, they spent $50m+ in fuckin Ohio! We lost fuckin Georgia while they were jerking off Cheney’s and trying to convince white folks in the suburbs not to be who they are

It’s legit insane to see the party straightup abandon working class demographics. Then again, this is the same party that now literally spends millions of dollars each primary on getting votes for Republican politicians

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They tried everything except giving Dem voters what they want…

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Which is what exactly? So many captain hindsights here.

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How about some actual progressive policy? Not sure how people like you manage to play ignorance for this long.

You’re being hard headed if you want everyone you argue with in the comments to list exactly what they were looking for. How about you go into chat gpt and ask "what are some progressive policies that Democratic voters want that aren’t being reflected by the DNC and you’ll get exactly what you’re facetiously asking us

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I was excited when Biden dropped out and Harris got this huge surge as the new young, not actively deteriorating candidate, then more excited when she announced Tim Walz and got a mid western, blue collar surge, and cautiously optimistic when everyone was briefly focusing on how anti-democratic and un-American Project 2025 was, but then started getting worried when all I saw running up to the election was stories about abortion rights and women voting against their husbands and celebrity endorsements.

It feels like Obama successfully ran a campaign of Hope and Change, and since then Democrats repeatedly campaign on maintaining the status quo and just not letting it slide too much further. And while it’s possible to win an election on the basis of ‘I’m at least somewhat competent’, it might not be in the US when so much of the population sees how fundamentally broken wealth inequality is at baseline.

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Not discounting anything you wrote here, but it still entertains me when people call the 60 year old Kamala Harris young.

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20 points

In contrast to Biden and Trump she looks 40.

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36 points

Fuck I would not have guessed that. She looks 10-20 years younger than that

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Compared to Trump and Biden she’s a baby.

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started getting worried when all I saw running up to the election was stories about abortion rights and women voting against their husbands and celebrity endorsements.

That surge when she started was all her campaign. The news and dis/info sources were all caught flat-footed.

They cast around for a few weeks testing what stories would “drive engagement”. Scandals? No. VP pick, like - Who’s it gonna be? No. Did she take any of the demented rapist’s baiting? Nope. Dang.

At the end, they settled on those, and that’s why it seemed different. They (corporate news, mostly) had finally wrested a narrative out of the campaign the campaign didn’t disagree with.

It was thin, a little schlocky, but either true or based on the campaigns ads, so - that got stamped on the campaign, and that’s why you remember that specific set of themes.

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Maintaining the status quo is conservatism.

By definition that’s not what the left wants.

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3 points

Didn’t she gain votes in the swing states and mainly lost votes in states she won nevertheless?

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6 points

No

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That’s what they were aiming for. It didn’t work.

A California lawyer is not the candidate you want when you run to the right. Harris would have won the popular vote if she ran left, but she still would have lost the swing states, and thus the election.

If you want to win the swing states, you need to pick a Democrat from a swing state or a red state. Mark Kelly would have won with Harris’s campaign.

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Kamala Harris lost every swing state and Democrats lost The Senate

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Sure, but you can gain votes and still lose. That is not a contradiction

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She out performed Buden in WI, GA, NV, and NC. She underperformed in PA and MI. AZ wasn’t done counting when I got these numbers. Trump gained in all the rest.

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I’m toying with the idea that we’re all wrong, and it was actually widespread fraud that “won” the election for Trump.

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3 points

Highly, highly doubtful

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2 points

Does that matter?

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I don’t know, you’re toying with the idea of mass fraud with no real basis. Seems counterproductive at best.

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Willing to consider anything and everything to ensure the democratic party gets no blame are we?

Democrats must change. Democrats need to open our electoral process to third parties. No more keeping things fundamentally the same. That era is over. Get over it.

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It’s not that the Democratic Party needs defending for their lackluster ideas, it’s more that the candidate who is far more unpopular won by a landslide. It’s so counterintuitive.

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