This was one of the main reasons why I was looking forward to Harris winning … so that everyone in the world could just stop talking about dumb American politics for a while
Now it looks like it’s all we’ll ever talk about at the expense of talking about every other important thing in the world … such as our long term survival as a species on this planet.
The unfortunate truth is that a Trump win is relevant to our long term survival as a species. He’s likely to push anti-pollution deregulation, prioritize fossil fuels, refuse to uphold international agreements on climate change policy, etc. That’s on top of the damage he will do to international trade, charitable efforts, world health, immigration, and war. He is far from the only problem in all of those areas, but unfortunately he’s likely to be involved with just about all of it, and improve none of it. As an American, I’m so so sorry.
“Drill baby drill, frack baby frack”.
Trumps literal words at a rally leading up to the election. And people cheered.
This should tell you all you need to know. If you recycle, if you carpool, if you use public transportation. If you have a compost pile. If you refuse to buy plastic water bottles, and styrofoam plates. If you do everything you can to reduse, reuse, and recycle, fuck you. Your efforts are in vein. All of it is being undone on a global industrial scale. Purposefully. With tax breaks for the oil tycoons who pollute the most.
This is what we’re in for.
The unfortunate truth is that a Trump win is relevant to our long term survival as a species.
You actually missed the biggest thing of all. Trump’s new world disorder is going to create an explosion of nuclear proliferation. In the new environment, countries can no longer rely on the US nuclear umbrella as they have for the past 70 years. Every country will rightly want to have their own nuclear weapons now. And the shear amount of new countries that are going to have their own nuclear weapons is going to guarantee a disaster sooner or later.
Heck they even were saying they want to nuke Mars. Oh wait, I mean lie about their reason for putting nukes in space
As the POTUS, Trump gets to set the bar on the world stage for international cooperation in many parts of life.
Other leaders, world-wide, will follow his lead, either because they can finally get away with it, or in reaction to how he treats their nation.
We saw this to a small degree with Trump 1.0 when nobody expected him to win. Now the entire world has had 8 years to figure out what they are going to do.
Sadly, a few protests now is nothing in comparison if Harris would have won. The Republican party already had preemptive lawsuits to challenge the election results before election day and the results would have been contended for months. There was a high likelihood of a repeat of Jan. 6th 2021 on Jan. 6th 2025 from right wing milita groups.
While I fully support these protests, they need to be planning for the responding violence from authorities. It’s coming the day Trump takes office.
Probably best to stick to coordinating movements to isolate and neutralize paid provocateurs and provide secure wellness stations, while maintaining a recording of EVERYTHING done by officials. Remember to broadcast everything, not just record. That way recordings can’t be seized.
At some point they’ll start shutting down internet access to prevent recording of their actions. But that will probably coincide to when protest isn’t the most efficient of methods any more.
At some point they’ll start shutting down internet access to prevent recording of their actions
This is an interesting viewpoint. I think the internet is where the modern GOP has their strongest control over people. Yeah, there is traditional media, but the internet echo chambers are where a lot of their people go to express their beliefs. Shutting it all down would be severing a link that directly guides the populace’s minds. (Especially for the younger folks who don’t know a life without internet.)
Imagine no more Xitter propaganda, no more ignorant Facebook posts, no hate-inspiring memes propagating at the speed of light… Conspiracy theories and gossip would become localized again, and since the people inclined toward those things can’t independently determine reality, over time their viewpoints would inevitably diverge from each other.
I mean, a lot of things could happen, ranging from violent reactions, to increased empathy (from being forced to interact with diverse neighbors in-person.) But without a central command link, a brain to tell them what to believe, the tribal nature of their supporters would invariably cause fractures within their own base.
(At least, one can hope.)
And searches for “can I change my vote” and “what is a tariff” have spiked
Everyone has been warning against Trump (including his own ex staff and lawyers).
Big thanks to the donkeys though who promoted Trump and tried to pretend Kamala is the same.
I doubt there is a single economist that believes in Trump
Get ready because next year they going make protesting illegal, and Trump already signal his willingness to send troops to said protest. I suspect we will have protest and soldiers shooting said protesters. People under estimate how many mega have joined the army.
If making protesting illegal is enough to get you to stop protesting: You’re not really upset enough to have protested in the first place for anything but taking pictures of it for social media points.
And it’s not like protesters haven’t been getting shot or beaten up by police even while it’s legal.
That’s why I would advise against directly confrontation means of protest. Instead look at things like malicious compliance, boycotts, 4B / birthstrike, anticonsumption, and other acts of non-participation. Labor strikes will probably be common, but those can be rather risky.
Governments know how to deal in violence. Don’t give them a target to aim at.
Yep. They knew what would happen because we’ve been telling them for months what would happen. Trump himself has been telling them for months what would happen. But they’re too smart. They always seem to know more than those they disagree with.
And now, because of a single issue that’s happing in a country where most of them couldn’t have located on a map a year ago- we’re now having to deal with the worst possible outcome.
And here’s the kicker-
What’s happening at that place that they could locate on a map a year ago that upset them so much will not be happening for too much longer…
and it won’t be ending in a way they’d have hoped it would.
But just wait… it’ll be everyone else’s fault.
The new narrative is “I have no culpability whatsoever when it comes to Trump winning just because I kept repeating that no one should vote for Harris. It’s entirely her fault for running a bad campaign.”
They refuse to share blame. I hope they feel just as self-righteous when they’re getting marched into that boxcar.
Please show me a single example of somepne saying that Harris was the same as trump.
I see all these comments roasting the protestors, but I’m just glad people are angry. It would have been great if the election went differently, but it didn’t, and we are where we are. Support people getting mad with how things turned out. Stop acting like all these people did nothing until now. I voted, and I’m protesting. I’ll happily welcome non voters in the protests too. Turn your frustration and anger against the people you oppose instead of willing allies.
Stop acting like all these people did nothing until now
Well no, they did do something.
They voted for Trump.
Something something chickens something something home to roost and all that.
I understand wanting to protest, but what could it possibly accomplish? If you are protesting the incoming administration, they’re certainly not going to care. If you’re protesting the current administration, there’s nothing they can do. If you’re protesting the people who didn’t vote, I’m pretty sure they already know we’re mad at them. As of yet there’s no evidence of outright cheating (if it turns out there is, that would be a better time to protest). But protesting just because you don’t like the results of a race is a bit like throwing a tantrum.
People who say protests are useless should be cursed with diarrhea farts every time they sneeze
Maybe the point of the protest is to bring awareness to the public?
Awareness of what? As badly informed as most people are, I’m still certain that most Americans know Trump won.
I’m all for protests, and lord knows we will be needing them, but protests should have some kind of coherent demands. The left wastes a ton of energy spinning it’s wheels.
Maybe the point of the protest is to bring awareness to the public?
Maybe. How useful is “awareness”?
When I look at the biggest protests in the US there’s plenty of awareness about around all the biggest protests. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_and_demonstrations_in_the_United_States_by_size
Going down that list, it’s hard to find evidence that the awareness got us anywhere.
- George Floyd - We keep saying his name. Has there been any change in police violence or accountability?
- Earth day - We’ve been talking about this forever and we keep breaking records on extreme weather events.
- 2017 Women’s March - We just elected the chief pussy grabber.
- March for Our Lives - Guns are still everywhere.
- 2018 Women’s March - See number 3.
- RickyRenunicia - I have to pass on this one. I have no idea what the state of corruption in PR is.
- Great American Boycott - Democrats switched to agreeing with Republicans on immigration.
- LGB - You can reasonably argue that sexuality related rights have improved. It’s not clear that this protest was a particular catalyst for that. If we want to pin things on a single event, Stonewall probably had a bigger impact.
- Anti Nuclear - More countries than ever believe they need nukes to survive. We’re now unironically talking about the use of tactical nuclear weapons.
- Million Man March - See number 1
I could go on, but the track record for the 10 biggest protests isn’t great.
I don’t know man, I’m still an amateur on this whole scene, admittedly. I do know that when my loved ones are put at risk I’m not just going to shrug and say, “guess this is just how it’s gonna be, voters voted for it.” It’s unsurprisingly feeling just like the last time Trump was in power. I happen to be of a demographic that is at minimal risk personally, but my neighbors are being threatened and their property has been vandalized with hate speech. They’re scared to leave the house. I’ve got family and friends being told they don’t deserve to have the same rights as everyone else and targeted by open acts of hatred. A lot of Americans may have voted in support of this kind of thing, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to just shut up, roll over, and accept it. If that’s considered throwing a tantrum, then okay. I would expect anyone to throw such a tantrum in the same kind of circumstances, including my political opposites.
Where did I say you should roll over and accept it or do nothing? The only thing I said was that protest won’t change anything, specifically right now. There are plenty of other things you can do besides protest.
Personally, if we get to a point where there’s an organized multi-state secessionist movement, I’ll join that army in a heartbeat to try to take back at least part of our country. We’re not at that point yet.
Wonderful timing! Did you ever consider doing this a week or two ago?
If the people had rallied far more before the election, it could have convinced enough ignorant fence sitters. Now we have people reacting to damage already done when the next chance to fix it is two years away.
It would have been worse. Fox News would paint them as anarchists and encourage violence. Nothing would change on the right
If the people had rallied far more before the election, it could have convinced enough ignorant fence sitters.
The exact same thing happened in 2016. Huge rallies a few days after Clinton lost. If those same street rallies had come a few days BEFORE the election, she probably would have won.
Of course, there is the distinct possibility that the rallies were happening before the election. The billionaire owned media just didn’t choose to show it until now.
