Pale bros are already the most coddled demographic in this country. It’s absurd that politicians are still pandering to their historic privilege. Politicians are too ignorant and brainwashed to confront the reality of racism, patriarchy, etc. That’s the actual problem.
I dunno, maybe 18-21 years of being told everything wrong in the world is a guy’s fault has something to do with it. Putting all the blame on people that had no hand in the state of things doesn’t exactly enamour them to your cause…
Y’all choose the bear over random dudes this summer. These young guys saw all that happening, right in front of them in real time. Where were they supposed to turn? One side was offering them answers, even if falsely. The other side was blaming them for everything. The shift right wasn’t all because of the Trump’s and Bannon’s of the world.
Oh woe is me?! Cry me a river. No one is blaming young men for these things. It’s a call to action to dismantle a system of oppression on marginalized groups. Some of those marginalized groups include white people, white men, and young white men. This whole election just allowed the worst to flourish.
An actual opportunity to talk about an issue, rather than reinforce my own beliefs. Dont mind if i do…
Dont you think this is more of an artifact of personalizing newsfeeds and those separated viewpointa clashing with other personalized newsfeeds?
Every opinion exists, and the internet allows opinions to be magnified without a basis in people’s true opinions. We need to learn how to navigate and develop our social beliefs without fixating on who’s opinion is percieved as majority or being shown the most in media… that includes overreacting to polarized opinions and validating them.
Real peoples opinions are different than the popularity of memeified opinions. When people talk to each other there is understanding. When people arm themselves with memes instead of forming their own opinions, we are parroting ideas that might be manufactored so we have no choice but to deny meme ideologies unless their merit is unavoidable.
Oh look, a complete failure of which government responsibility which everyone was saying was underfunded and neglected for years?
Rhymes with masturbation (yes, thats the first one to my head)
I’ll never understand why neither Harris nor at least Walz didn’t fully pierce into the echo-chamber of the manosphere.
I thought this was half the point of picking Walz who could hold his own on guns and sports with Joe Rogan and all that shit.
The closest Harris got was… Going on on Howard Stern? Gen Z men aren’t listening to Stern.
Edit: I know why. They miscalculated (and I did, too). They thought women alone would turn out in a proportion greater than the historically-low turnout of young men. More than that, millions just fell for the both sides disinfo ops and sat out. But that doesn’t change the point that it was low risk / high reward to go on those outlets.
The walls of the echo-chamber have been built up and reinforced for over a decade. No single election cycle will ever pierce through.
These people are lost causes unless a massive culture shift happens. And it’s not looking like that will happen in the next decades. You, just like other countries, will have to deal with a growing strong block of far right, young men who will grow up to be far right seniors.
The warning signs started being obvious with Gamergate but they were ignored. The only thing that can be done is preventing the growth of these echo-chambers but the damage is done. It’s just like how carbon capture will not solve climate change, only stopping emitting more as soon as possible.
My theory has been that left leaning men let other voices be heard. That came at the cost of letting the right fill the power vacuum. The left need to let their own assholes be assholes.
I think Democrats have needed more chaotic good and lawful evil parts of the chart. Everyone else on the left need to realize those guys will need to say the wrong things for the right reasons. After all the messaging is not for you. It’s for the boys with a tendency to the right.
What they say will not agree with you. Lose the battle, win the war.
Also, the extent of the campaign’s outreach to young men was “vote on behalf of the women you know”.
Maybe pick a better message that doesn’t exclude their entire demographic and you might find better results.
I blame their mothers.
I see your point. I don’t mean it like that. Then again I didn’t say what I meant. I just feel you wouldn’t treat other women in a way you wouldn’t treat your mother. A lot of sensitivity, traditionally (and therefore I may not have a great eye on things), comes from a mother. But I’m not very skilled at social engineering so I don’t know what has gone wrong. A lack of manners isn’t acceptable no matter where you got it from.
