How are people surprised?
Humans are animals, we’re not innately good, we need to be taught.
For like 20-30 years we’ve stripped all of that out of public education. If you have shit parents, no one is teaching you how to be a good person, or even what the benefits of being a good person are.
Steve Bannon got his finger on gaming culture like 30 years ago with WoW gold farms in China just for the money, but he immediately realized that was the in road to the youth.
Streaming incentives the worst personality traits and kids follow them religiously. They were the role models for lots of Gen Z, and a significant amount had the algorithm taken them to full blown al right bullshit.
None of this is new, we’ve been bitching about it for literal decades.
It’s just the fascists are putting the fucking work in and plan long term, and neo liberals only care about short term donations they can grift from the wealthy.
Shit is too fucking important to keep letting them be the only other option. Shit is too fucking serious to intentionally half ass politics these days.
The “moderate” experiment started in 92 needs to be over
I’m fucking sick of it being
“Right of center wealthy elites vs angry poor men want fascism”
It’s not even that most of them want fascism, that’s the fucked up part.
A lot of it is just tantrum voting. They know politicians like Pelosi, Hillary, and yes even Biden are shit and bad for regular Americans. But Trump is worse. It doesn’t matter tho because for some people once they hit a “shit threshold” both sides are the same.
As much as people on the left are accused of being accelerationists, a significant amount of people who voted for trump are hoping one way or another the current system gets burnt down.
Long term, talking like 2044?
That’s 16 years after trump’s 2nd term. Hopefully there’s an election in 2028 with a fair primary and a fair general all around. If not that’s still a lot of time to bounce back.
Don’t listen to the doom and gloom from mainstream media, the wealthy owners are happy trump won and want everyone to stop caring so 2028 pops up before we realize and we just go along with the “it’s too late to do anything except what the rich want”.
The next four years will suck, that’s all the more reason to focus on the next shot to really fix everything that breaks, and make sure we pick someone willing to fight
I think there will always be a certain type of male that really believe that humans need a pecking order, and they’ll live vicariously through the broligarchs, even if they have no power whatsoever. Social media platforms make that easier than ever to find and worship such awful people. This is why I give side-eye when people tell me that Gen Z is somehow inherently more just and so on than any other prior generation.
By what possible mechanism would that even be? It certainly is not from teaching media literacy or critical thinking at mass scale.
The “moderate” experiment started in 92 needs to be over
It is over, one way or the other. Europe is also seeing neoliberal politics collapsing, since Pax Americana is over, and being a slow and steady parasite and passing all the hardship to the working class does not work when “other people’s money”, meaning the capacity of the public, runs out.
The question is whether our dear oligarchs realize that the only way to keep the current system where they are safe is to give power away and transition to something of a social democracy, like in the 50-60s West, otherwise it will be torn from them by a violent dictatorship where they might not even keep their lives.
Well, in most authoritarian countries they are also very well known to be bad around high windows, or liable to get lost for at least a few years after trying to go up against the ones with real power. When norms go out the window, shit gets real for everyone, not just us poors.
I’ll say it again… Gen Z was dealt an awful hand by being exposed to all the toxicity of the internet before they were mature enough to deal with it.
I personally feel privileged to have been born in the late 80s so I got exposed to the internet before it was a cesspool and got to learn resilience to misinformation gradually instead of being beat around the head with it.
You think the incels of the late 2010s were bad, boy howdy, just you wait.
Theyre the ones doing the alienating
I sometimes wonder if this is a mass psychosis of sorts that happens when you have a surplus of military age men. In history how many of these impotents would just be given a spear or a rifle and told to go die for the Emperor/King/Fatherland on some pointless military adventurism? Then they wouldn’t have the time to ruminate and make up their own cause to lash out for. “Women are against you, academia is against you, society itself is against you.”
Look, I’ll be honest with you, I just don’t want to misunderstand you, but the implication made me throw up a little in my mouth.
Did you just say that young men need to be killed off periodically because you think they are otherwise a burden to society?
No. I’m saying that’s how the issue has been handled historically, possibly deliberately in some cases, but more likely just coincidentally. Not that we need to go back to it in some exercise in eugenics. “The issue” being something to do with an outmoded view of masculinity that was never substantially replaced as the world got less violent and dire. I would rather fix that. How? I don’t know.
That said, your disgust with the phenomenon does not necessarily make it wholly untrue. Right now we have a bunch of maldeveloped, entitled sex pests with violent ideation who just helped vote in a thousand-year Reich. “Burden” is not the right word for them. Rejected by polite society, they have had no outward outlet for their chauvinism and rage, and so they have turned it inward on the rest of us.
How many American military age men do you think are going to be killed in the next 5-10 years?
Just because your politics has managed to alienate young men the most, so they are the most likely to be voting for anything but establishment, does not mean military age men in general are “maldeveloped, entitled sex pests”. In fact, I would bet more military age men just didn’t vote than vote Trump, because they felt Harris doesn’t represent them, and not because she’s a woman. This is a wholly US culture war driven phenomenon. Fun fact, Orbán’s voters are majority female, most men vote for the opposition, especially among military age men.
Military age men historically have been the driving force behind the greatest examples of rapid societal progress. Military age men coming back from the hell of WWI have been the ones to destroy the divine right of kings and the feudal world order. Military age men fought in the revolutions against the authoritarian communist world.
Of course, a lot of governments did things to get rid of military aged men, but it was almost always because they were the primary threat to outmoded world views, not the ones to preserve it.
