Summary

In Wayne County, Arab American precincts rejected Kamala Harris, with Biden receiving 82% of the vote in 2020 and Harris only 23% in 2024.

Trump’s outreach to Arab American and Muslim communities, including visits to Dearborn and Hamtramck, contributed to his increased support.

Harris’s performance in Dearborn, where she received only 13% of the vote in the south end, reflects the backlash against Biden’s handling of foreign policy in the Middle East.

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they only care about themselves, and their misguided belief that they are ‘doing the right thing’ and ‘paying back’ biden.

if they cared at all about gaza, about the west bank, about palestine and its people, they would have come out in force, and in support of democrats from coast to coast. anything to prevent another trump presidency.

trump was never on their side and will let israel do whatever they want.

just like he’ll let russia do whatever they want and ukraine will cease to exist. protest votes, like those in michigan, helped doom ukraine, too.

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Agreed on all but one point:

Ukraine won’t cease to exist. They’ll just fulfill their threat to execute a crash nuclear weapons development program, if that truly becomes their only option.

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In support of, (checks notes) … The woman who never meaningfully distanced herself from Biden’s policy of funding the Genocide of their families.

Yeah. Super shocked. Super.

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Well at least they can complain altogether when Trump reports them all.

Stupid fucking people.

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-2 points

People who don’t agree with you aren’t stupid. They just have a different life they’re living.

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-3 points

Mask drops and the liberal becomes racist when the race in question doesn’t vote for their party. Classic. It’s so classic that I can show you a song from 1966 singing it

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I’m not going to laugh if trump starts deporting Muslims - including those here legally… but I probably won’t feel too bad about it either.

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I’ll feel bad, along with when they come for all the other immigrant groups who voted for Trump, and eventually for the rest of us.

Now is the time to build coalitions, and work together to confront what is coming.

We keep talking about how to “get through” to voters…

Well, cold reality is a very effective tool, and many people will be regretting their choices in the coming days. We’d be stupid to turn them away instead of showing them we believe in the same core values.

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True! All these people so quick to watch those most in danger get carried off knowing they can blend into the fascism state thats coming. It’s crazy seeing it with my own eyes.

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They’re not going to regret shit until an immigration officer with a military detachment is knocking on their doors.

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  • German liberal 1936
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L*berals will see literal genocide and say “this is ok bc they deserve it for not voting blue no matter who”

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Um, a lot of these people voted for Red, accelerated genocide. It’s hard to find sympathy for that behavior.

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Harris could’ve fixed that by promising not to blow up Palestine. This is purely on her and Biden for being unelectable, not on people refusing to vote for someone who will wipe them out

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Do you see it yet?

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So allow the candidate to supercharge the extermination to win? That’s one helluva strategy. Certainly one way to try and shift the blame to one side when there’s plenty to go around for both dems and the uncommitted

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Yet you only ever complain about how “the uncommitted” are the problem, and never dems 🤔

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not on people refusing to vote for someone who will wipe them out

Man I totally forgot Trump is actually a peace loving, human-rights respecting person and totally won’t give Israel a blank check. Can’t wait for the news article about how Trump’s totally gonna get Israel to stop!

Good thing we didn’t vote in BlUe MagA right guys?

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I’m afraid these guys are incapable of complex morale situations, not understanding how the lines are blurred in most situations. They just want everything to be good or bad, nothing in between.

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You know people voted for candidates other than Harris and trump right? Like Arab americans voting for 3rd party candidates that haven’t promised to wipe out Gaza?

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Harris refused to take a stand against Israel so why should they vote for her?

Why are they selfish? Because they didn’t vote how YOU wanted? Who’s being selfish here?

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Oh yea, because Trump’s definitely gonna take a stand against Israel and TOTALLY won’t give them a blank check and encourage genocide. Nope.

At least we didn’t give that blUe MagA the Trifecta! We did it Lemmy!

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They didn’t vote for trump. They didn’t vote. Both sides promised to continue the genocide. That’s pretty fair.

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And yet Trump was the man Netanyahu wanted. Why in the world wouldn’t that be their sign. Oh, I guess to be fair it doesn’t rhyme, so it was probably hard for you guys to understand.

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Too many people in this thread think they know better about the average voter. Most Americans don’t actually give a shit about politics. It’s getting them to care is the problem. Most people in the USA are too fucking stupid for their own good. Most of the people in this thread are too sensitive to realize they are part of the problem. Arab Americans aren’t directly responsible for Trump’s win but they contributed to it by holding out their votes on a single issue. If both candidates were literally the same as each other besides their stance on Gaza then I can see the logic of not voting for one over the other or abstaining. This was not the case. Most of you trying to act like Harris should have come out and promise to personally stop the genocide don’t realize that the Jewish population in America controls more money, power and influence than the Arab vote. So both sides are going to go out of their way to support Israel. You pearl clutchers don’t get this.

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That’s a roundabout way to say you consider them selfish for not voting for a candidate they believe will keep the genocide of their relatives going.

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This is the thing I can stand least about liberals. They’re the smartest, most moral people in the world and anyone who doesn’t vote their way for any reason is stupid and bad

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Which is crazy cuz I’m actually the smartest, most moral person in the world, and I voted for De La Cruz

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Classic. Here’s a song written in 1966 about the same thing https://youtu.be/3cdqQ2BdgOA?si=Quu3uCr8FEPUlTGr

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“Voting 3rd party or sitting out during the election basically cedes the election to one of two parties. We should at least choose the party that has a better chance to be swayed against genocide than the one who openly advocates for the genociders to ‘finish the job’”

“L1b3RaL!!1!a”

I’m not saying liberals are the smartest and most moral people, they definitely aren’t. But dismissing reality of the American political system and the almost certain likelihood of the US presidential election to vote for neither of the two main parties and expecting something good to come out of it is pretty telling to one’s critical thinking skills.

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Democrats told them to shut up about it. So they did…

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Not only that, but Kamala’s campaign decided to send Bill Clinton to lecture them on the Gaza war, just before the election.

The Harris campaign also sent Hillary Clinton to Florida. Went over like a lead balloon.

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Lol. Hope they all got their bags packed.

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So minorities only deserve rights when they agree with you, even as you advocate for their death?

What makes you different from Trump supporters again? Is it really just the colour of the tie?

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It’s not about what we want anymore… Y’all got what you voted for. Congrats.

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Imagine saying this about German Jewish folk in the Holocaust. You just gave up all pretense of advocating the moment they didn’t support your party.

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They voted against their own interests which is what’s really shocking.

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LOTS of poeple, including Arab Americans felt that their interests werent represented by either party. So they voted against the system in general.

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Clarify for me please, who is the they in this sentence? I don’t know how to respond without risk of guessing wrongly.

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I’ll be watching how this bold strategy plays out in Gaza.

Oh, this is a shocking turn of events.

To clarify, this is not a new quote. However, this is the new Ambassador to Israel, I’m given to understand.

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Shit, theyre gonna start bombing gaza and murdering women and children when Trumps inaugurated

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But that would make Trump a war criminal, and the US public would not stand for that, no sir they wont! They would rise up and march in the streets until that genocide stopped!

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Clearly you mean escalate.

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We are at genocide. Now. Someone else tried coming up with the term ‘super genocide’ because whatever democrats are responsible for cant be that bad, trump has to be worse. And since we’re already at genocide, it has to be worse than genocide. Like we are currently at excusable genocide, doesnt count genocide, only technically genocide. Itll only be a crime against humanity once Trump is bombing women and children. I cant wait to see the headlines of hospitals getting hit with US missiles and people like you going “see? Its worse!”

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The West Bank. That’s where they’re going to start. As announced. Because of Trump winning.

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Start? You aint been payin attention, theyve been actively occupying there long before the gaza invasion.

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There is no higher level of Genocide. The worst is already happening. Get the fuck out with this bad faith take.

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So naive. Let’s see what happens.

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Ah yes, I must be naive. It can’t be that you’re wrong about the already existing levels of death.

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There’s genociding the West Bank as well as Gaza, as currently suggested now that Trump has won. You might not see a difference between 40% and 100%, but your joint winners Netanyahu and Trump do. You sure showed Harris there.

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You think they weren’t fucking up the West Bank already? You haven’t been paying attention.

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I don’t know many things but the voters are obviously to blame. We drew 100 different trolley problems and told them democracy and women’s rights were on the line. We even had Bill Clinton logically explain that Palestinians were human shields. We even had better policy even though most voters didn’t know it. I can only conclude voters are selfish and that’s why they vote against their own interests.

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You had me in the first half- took me to ‘human shields’ before I recognized the tone lol

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