Automated background removal was also added recently.

88 points

Win11 exclusive? Welp, guess I’ll never use it, then.

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Windows 11 is pretty awesome though

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Windows 11 is a much better experience for developers than Windows 10. I see a lot of people who just hate on it for no real reason other than it’s different.

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I’m a dev and I hate Win11. I could list dozens of reasons why, but one that pisses me off daily is that they removed keyboard shortcuts from task manager for no goddamn reason. Alt+E is the shortcut to end process on every other Windows OS except Win11 because it was made with malicious incompetence.

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21 points

It’s still missing a handful of features from Windows10, which might keep some people from upgrading

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I’ll bite, what features are missing

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Yeah that and on my custom built pc that runs awesomely windows 11 poo poos some of my hardware and refuses to take up residence all together.

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69 points
  • Once you remove all the tracking and ads, which were already fucking intolerable in 10
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1 minute during setup is not exactly a sacrifice

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10

That’s where you lost credibility.
Windows 7 was their last non-tracking OS.

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Eh, I don’t hate Windows (unlike a lot in the Fediverse), but I wouldn’t say Win11 is awesome. It probably just works. From what I see it’s just a mildly-improved 10, which is nice, but missing a few things (no grouped task bar button option in my case), which is why I’m holding out for now.

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I’ve used Vista “exclusive” programs on XP back in those days so I’m kinda curious how exclusive it really is if I could get the installer/files for it.

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Shouldn’t be too hard, I expect it to be a single executable stored in C:\Windows\System32 , much like the current mspaint.exe. Copy it over, run, have fun

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12 points

Wouldn’t surprise me if they lock it to the windows store. I hope I’m wrong!

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meanwhile, wordpad… probably used by more people over the age of seven than paint is, getting axed.

microsoft has office subs to sell, but they do not have a photoshop or gimp or even a paint.net alternative to sell.

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I’ve been using Notepad++ for a good while now and it’s proven to be a great alternative to MS WordPad.

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Can you format at all in Notepad++? I tend to use it for notes jot down in a rush or editing tiny scripts. For stuff that needs to look prettier, I tend to use Google Docs.

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Yes and then some. It has built in support for a lot of programming languages plus allows you to add more. It also support extended and regex find/replace.

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I’ve literally never met anybody that used Wordpad, whereas I know a lot of tech normies that’ll use MS Paint for quick memes and things

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I used it back in my Windows days. Out of the box, I think it’s the only way to do rich text on Windows. Also (used to be anyway) one of the less resource intensive options.

You know, for when you’ve got Napster, Winamp (with visualisation), ICQ, and MSN all up and barely running. You don’t want to have to run, like, WordPerfect at the same time! Your MP3s will start skipping :p

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They can cut WordPad, if they kill Notepad then IDK what to say…

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Notepad++ FTW!

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Fellow notepad.exe aficionado here as well

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They created WordPad because of antitrust issues and never changed it. Try opening a Word document created by a recent version, it’s pretty useless today.

Notepad rules though, it even got UTF8 support recently-ish! /s

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I think they’re just pushing people to use OneNote (which is free).

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Free with lots of features stripped out

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Honestly not that bad if I want to use it for notetaking. But not as full-featured.

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Those are great features and two of the biggest reasons I never bother with Paint. But locking them to Windows 11 and not putting them out on Windows 10 is some Grade A bullshit.

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I get why they do it though - any change to win10 needs testing and so on and might not be welcomed by the user base. You can always download a free (as in freedom) image editor, some are even on the Microsoft Store. Be glad they did not backport all the bad sides of win11…

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They had no problem turning windows 10 into mock windows 11 despite what the userbase may think. I don’t think adding QOL updates to Paint is going to be met with furor.

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Why would they port new features back to a legacy OS, there is no reason…

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Because everyone still uses it.

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It sure isn’t enough to get me to bother installing 11.

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But today Microsoft announced that it is finally adding two features that could make the app a bit more useful for power users: support for Photoshop-esque image layers and the ability to open and save transparent PNGs.

What kind of person is an MS Paint power user. I just use it to paste screenshots into if I’m not intending fine editing, otherwise it might as well not exist as a program.

The only person who seriously uses MS Paint for artwork is that one guy who recreated the Mona Lisa out of hundreds of pieces of variously burnt toast. Real, usable art tools would destroy the purpose and make that guy sad.

Really, if they kept this kind of momentum up for the next 20 years, it might put it on par with Fire Alpaca. It’s an interesting move, they’re just so incredibly late to the game that even other free programs are still leagues better than they are and no one will ever take them seriously again.

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Washington State Department Of Transit’s twitter feed is pretty awesome because of it

https://twitter.com/wsdot_traffic/status/746373350864232448

and

https://twitter.com/wsdot_traffic/status/1398301020606787586

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Glorious. This alone has swayed me. Whoever runs this account, I’m glad they haven’t been yelled at by some soulless office robot

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I’d consider myself a paint power user. My job (QA) gives us a NUC and wants us to edit screenshots and videos on said NUC. It’s not going to be a fun time with Photoshop, online tools are expressly forbidden, and alternative software needs manual approval by GIS.

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Transparency and layers is hardly a power user feature. Any common person wanting to make a meme worth half a chuckle will need both of those features. MS paint always starts up super fast compared to PS or GIMP so I’m looking forward to these features for fast meme creation.

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What kind of person is an MS Paint power user.

Some older folks that aren’t as tech savvy have made some impressive pieces with it if memory serves. There’s also those that use it unironically for its constraints to produce pieces with a classic MS Paint style produced from those limitations. In a way this update kind of flies in the face of that a little, maybe, but eh.

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I use Paint almost daily.

Especially when I can’t be arsed opening Steam/Aseprite. Paint is a pixel art work horse.

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I forgot about people who do pixel art, and I’m terrible. People like you are invaluable to the gaming industry and the ornate ones are their own skillset I’m kind of always awed by

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Reading about other peoples workflows is always really cool. Thanks for re-contextualizing a tool :)

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The Big Lez Show graphics are drawn entirely in MS Paint. Every. Frame.

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Screw you Microsoft, I switched to Paint.net forever ago and I’ll be long dead in the cold, cold grave before I recognize Missourah, I mean switch back to Paint.

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True, I was just saying the name.

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I think is a bot it keeps saying that everytime somebody says “paint.net”. If not a bot is a weird guy for sure because in context of some of the other messages it doesn’t make sense to say that.

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https://getpaint.net/

Some other random company got the url “paint.net”, so confusingly you need https://getpaint.net/ to download the product paint.net

For those unfamiliar, it’s a free art program that’s… idk 80% of what photoshop is? But you can install community-made plugins to add features (shoutout to Grim Color Reaper).

Also on their download page, you want this one:

If you do the microsoft link, you’ll have to pay microsoft. For a free product. That microsoft doesn’t own. Dafuq.

The paid version from the microsoft store helps to support the product; however I suspect the devs will get more bang-per-buck if you DL the free version and make a direct donation at https://getpaint.net/donate.html

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You can also use winget to install it, if you’re into package managers

winget install --id=dotPDNLLC.paintdotnet -e

That way you can still get semi-automatic updates

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The developer of paint.net sells it on the Microsoft store to support the product. Not any different than buying an app through the App Store or Google play store.

It’s created by a Microsoft Engineer, not super surprising they leverage Microsoft tools to get paid.

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TIL. Thanks for the info - I’ll update my post.

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The single most historically aware yet still funny to the unaware joke that the Simpsons ever put out.

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