205 points

Sure, that’s great but it’s not even the point. Fundamental research and other type of “useless” scientific endeavors help humanity as a whole to better understand our universe but would never be privately funded because they don’t have any concrete and immediate financial benefits. This is precisely what a government should finance, because no one else would do it and yet it’s small stuff like that that make us collectively move forward as a species

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Musk fans don’t want humanity to advance. They hate technological progress.

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For OTHERS, yes. But many want the cutting edge for themselves, at no cost to themselves.

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-4 points

Where did Musk come from? I don’t see any mention of it here

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24 points

The Department of goverment efficiency was Musk’s meme idea and Trump is apparently just rolling with it.

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12 points

Musk will govern the DOGE department, won’t he?

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help humanity as a whole

And here you’ve identified why they hate it. They cannot stand the idea that resources might benefit other people, resources that they could hoard instead.

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2 points

Oh, they’ll probably publicly fund it for private profit

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86 points

In addition, government research in the sciences is miniscule. You could cut ALL of science funding and be no where close to the 1 trillion that Musk claims he’ll be able to reduce the budget by

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38 points

Now if he could start making cuts to the military…

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22 points

How dare you threaten the poor defense contractors.

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also, entire military is just under 1tn - all of it, including completely nonmovable things like nuclear silos and submarines. ripping enough copper from the walls to get 2tn would involve massive cuts to social security and healthcare, and maybe education. but nooo heavens forbid that progressive tax on income be introduced

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7 points

i, for one, would like to see more air defense assets going to Ukraine

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26 points

Regardless, he’ll claim he cut 500 bajillion dollars no matter what he ends up doing

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22 points

My bet is that if he expects to cut 2 trillion, he will end up increasing the budget by 4 trillion.

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3 points

No no, you don’t understand. This is what people have actually been asking for this whole time. Nobody wanted the budget randomly cut, they wanted it distributed

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3 points

He’ll cut 2 trillion out of the general budget, redirect it into his own holdings, and demand praise for his genius leadership. Oh, and he may or may not actually eliminate some programs along the way.

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15 points

He actually claimed 2 trillion.

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5 points

I knew Elongated Muskrat was a dumbass but I didn’t know he also can’t do math.

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I don’t think he even attempted to do math. Someone asked him about it and said what the current budget was, and he just rectally sourced 2 trillion. I assume he said that because it’s big enough to sound huge, but less than half of spending so people don’t panic that everything will be cut.

It’s meaningless bullshit until he actually says specifically what will be cut. Republicans have been claiming they can cut huge chunks of spending for years, but it never materializes. They only know how cut government income without paying for it.

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The goal’s more about cutting all the science funding than reducing spending. These are people who bitch about Ukraine when they don’t even plan on spending that money on something else they’re just guzzling Russian propaganda.

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The world just keeps getting more and more efficient at being dumb. Let’s just count all the appallingly stupid things crammed into this small meme with 2 million views:

  1. “Insurrection Barbie”
  2. Celebrating the defunding of useful scientific research by a new government efficiency agency
  3. This new agency is named after a cryptocurrency
  4. The cryptocurrency in question was created as a joke to satirize cryptocurrencies, but became a top prominent cryptocurrency itself.
  5. The “Department of Government Efficiency Agency” has 2 heads, both of whom have other primary jobs and were chosen in return for political support.
  6. There is also already an existing government agency that does the exact same thing, called the “Government Accountability Office”. But most people seem to be unaware of it, likely because it’s not named after a cryptocurrency/dog meme.
  7. This whole scheme was the idea of the richest person in the world.

Idiocracy didn’t happen because of unnatural selection, it happened because social media unlocked a runaway chain reaction of stupidity.

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Why are people saying that it was named after a cryptocurrency?

Isnt the dog the first thing people think of when seeing “doge”?

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Its reasonable to make the connection to the coin, as this particular cryptocurrency was propagandized and manipulated by musk, who will be running the agency.

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Wouldnt it be possible that he just likes the doge meme, promoting a cryptocurrency that is named after it?

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True! It was then technically named after a meme…which the coin named itself after, as it was supposed to be a “meme coin”.

Still stands though.

“Government agency named after meme. Such dumb. So chaos. Woooooow.” Lol

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Isnt the dog the first thing people think of when seeing “doge”?

It used to be so, but in recent several years Doge has lived and pretty much been defined in public consciousness by the cryptocurrency, which Musk has openly endorsed/memed.

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6 points

Is it better to be named after a stupid meme instead?

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6 points

Yes, Kabosu was a gem.

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It was for me until a few years ago. I used doge as a base for most of my internet alias since I like the meme (as you can see from my username). One time inside a game, I was asked if I was a crypto bro because of my ign. At the time, i don’t like crypto but have no hard feelings against it. Ever since then I loath those crypto bros and their worship of crypto currencies for destroying the image of doge and with their stupid crypto currency nonsense.

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71 points

And so the US lost decade becomes the medieval dark ages

It’d be fascinating as an outsider if the choices made by the US didn’t basically impact everything, everywhere.

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I thought we were done with the “medieval dark age” myth.

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32 points

How’s Neo-Feudal Gilded Age strike you?

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13 points

One giant leap forward, one roundhouse kick back.

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1 point

More of a global depression after these yahoos purposefully crash the economy.

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64 points

Say it with me:

No. Research. Is. Useless.

If we say that research is useless because it doesn’t bring you mo ey we could stop teaching children math beyond the absolute basics because “it doesn’t brinf them anything”. This is stupid, because those are the fundamentals that tech children to thing logically and become useful member of society. Same with research. It teaches us the things necessary to maybe invent some of the most useful stuff ever seen

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That’s a good one, but sadly true.

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10 points

Republicans want drones and cannon fodder, not scientists and intellectuals.

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You say that but I’ve heard concerningly many people say that there is no point in teaching everyone stuff like basic math because chances are they won’t use it

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I also hear that argument often and I absolutely hate it. They always say “tech them things like insert manual labor work. Nobody needs Math.”

It always depends. A lot of people will likely never use a saw outside of school. Especially in a time where a lot of people go to university the skills that complex math teaches you are basically the bare necessitys. Also school usually is teaches you the basic broad knowledge and skills required to get more specific education on a specific topic. This includes studying all different subjects and also getting training as a woodworker. It is literally impossible to focus on everything and that also isn’t really the use of school. Its just the first and universal form of education.

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Besides all that manual labor requires math. A ton requires geometry.

You think plumbing, framing, electrical or any trade is done without measuring and quite complicated math?

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India just removed pythagorean theorem from their educational curriculum for the very reason you mentioned.

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I’ve already seen this exact same claim these days, so now I decided to try and find out what’s happening exactly.

https://www.dw.com/en/indiadropsevolution/a-65804720

Apparently, it happened last year, not just now, as you said, and I’m sure I’ve already seem someone else (maybe on Lemmy, maybe on reddit) also describe it as a very recent event.

However I can’t find absolutely anything else regarding the topic. So I tried googling in Hindi instead, with the help of some machine translation.

https://www.aajtak.in/education/news/story/pythagoras-theorem-has-vedic-has-roots-karnataka-panel-proposes-to-sanskrit-as-a-third-language-1496805-2022-07-10

This is the only piece of news I’ve managed to find, again not very recent, and not nearly as dramatic as the DW article makes it out to be. Some official has described the Pythagorean theorem as ‘fake news’ because that same theorem had already been developed in India before Pythagoras, i.e. the point is that the name is a misnomer. They say nothing about removing the theorem.

The reduction of teaching of the periodic table and evolution that DW mentions is also explained in the PDF that the article links as mere reorganisation of the topics due to the circumstances (difficulties in teaching during corona). They don’t suggest actual removal of the topics. (The PDF is an official explanation from the Indian “National Council of Educational Research and Training”.)

I’m getting the impression DW is just fearmongering. Ideally there should be some article with exact and complete quotes in Hindi. I know that media freedom in India is not great (esp. considering the situation with Wikipedia), and it’s probably not easy to get to the bottom of it, but this story looks very suspicious.

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Even carpenters and masons need geometry

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I agree no research is useless but some just goes straight into the bonkers folder.

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Yeah, but just because a scientist calculated what would happen if we replaced the earth with blueberrys doesn’t mean we should defund him.

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If a scientist came to me asking for funding to research on bodily odor (which has happened, if memory serves me well) I would be baffled by the request but I wouldn’t outright deny it.

Sweaty arm pits. Stinky feet. Bad breath. Farts.

The lab would have to be declared a bio hazard area by itself. Too good to miss out. Just the chance to see someone trying to keep a straight face while taking in some of these fine bouquet of rancid would be too good to miss.

Imagine watching the footage of a day of work.

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