cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/4853884

cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/4853256

To whom it may concern.

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Petition calls to ban hurt feelings

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How about “if you don’t like Musk, don’t use X or buy a Tesla?”

I personally don’t really like any billionaires at all, but I’m not going to get in to a hissy fit because someone uses Microsoft Windows or bought something from Amazon.

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I’m not going to get in to a hissy fit because someone uses Microsoft Windows or bought something from Amazon

You’re more mature than some people here.

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That’s all well and good, and that’s currently my policy.

But that’s an entirely different discussion than whether banning a certain propaganda platform is worth doing and would cause the intended results.

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The first thought that comes to my mind is that the people in Twitter are just going to migrate to another social network. It won’t be problem solved, it’ll be problem moved.

The second thought I have is the amount of hate and comments full of misinformation on sites like Facebook. Should we ban Facebook too? And if so, where does it stop and who is it that gets to decide that a site is getting banned for “wrong think”.

Personally, I believe this isn’t so much a petition against X, but a petition against Musk, who I think wouldn’t be absolutely gutted even if X went out of business. I think he bought it with the aim of derailing anyway.

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Petition calls to ban war

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As much as I dislike Musk, expansion of the great firewall of Europe seems like a bad idea.

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They only need to expand it a little bit. Add a rule against Nazi websites, and enforce it. That’s not restrictive very much at all. Drag has gone drag’s entire life without relying on Nazi sites

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Lol. That’s true. I suspect that Xitter doesn’t have the staff or engineering talent left to pivot to enforce any new rules internally. It should be possible to catch them in a constant automated ban without hitting anything worthwhile.

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To operate there they would have to hire the staff back then, or not do so. That said, usually intent is all that matters, so if something gets through, so long as you showed efforts to prevent it and remove it in a reasonable manner, they would be fine.

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Does the article say anything about censorship? Usually bans like this are financial. So X offices would close in the EU and bank accounts seized and they wouldn’t be allowed to conduct business (eg with advertisers) in the EEA

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It specifically cites Brazil as an example, that involved a complete block of the website.

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More than that. The Brazil government made it illegal for it’s citizens to access the site, as well as the use of a VPN. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_of_Twitter_in_Brazil, chapter ‘Blocking’).

I think it’s a swell idea, banning your citizens from reading information you decide is wrong.

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They should discourage institutions from using it (and use government Mastadon instances of course). This is honestly long overdue.

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Yep they should keep fining him exponentially till he leaves (he obviously will never fall in line with EU rules)

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In few years we have moved from nonsensical Musk worshipping to nonsensical Musk hating.

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It’s like JK Rowling all over again.

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There is a certain, disturbingly large, segment of the population which doesn’t even appear to attempt to think for themselves.

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Correction, we went from fanatical Elon worship to a sudden realization, that he’s the greatest scam artist of all time (quite literally, nobody EVER burned more tax payer and inverter money) and went into sudden shock and disbelief.

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we have moved to musk hating but i fail to see how all of it could be characterised as nonsensical; there are elements for sure

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I never liked Musk, even when he was “In.” Even the Mars colonization meme rubbed me the wrong way, as the science does not line up with that.

It felt like a cult of personality to me. He was always a fickle jerk, a mixed bag.

You have a point though, people’s opinions were largely political, I think. Or just based on pure hope/cultism

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