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Can someone explain to me why it’s ridiculous to take them seriously? Genuine question.

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When your enemy has strategic nukes, the extreme ways to respond are:

A, not taking the nuclear threat seriously.

B, give up.

Saying we shouldn’t arm Ukraine because of nukes is close to option B.

Nukes may go off, but if arming Ukraine is the trigger, than we were likely to witness nuclear war because we wouldn’t accept option B, rather than any weapon system giving Ukraine an advantage. If that is the case, nuclear war has most likely already been decided.

The real game is to make those in Russia believe that backing down works towards their goals. If they hope in 20 years the US will fall apart, they may wait, or maybe someone will kill Putin and take over Russia, being rewarded by less sanctions.

Long story short, nuking Ukraine don’t benifit Russia more than it will hurt it.

I am not an expert

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And where do you stop appeasement? Kyiv? Warschau? Berlin? Amsterdam? London?

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USA should conquer Taiwan, Cuba and South America before somebody gives them nukes.

Opposing this would be blood thirsty war mongering, a direct cause of WW3.

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that’s because MAD still works and things like sending ATACMS are nowhere close to actual nuclear threshold, which would be nuclear attack or overwhelming conventional invasion threatening existence of country. nobody would be even thinking of nukes until Ukrainian tanks roll to Moscow lol. if you have a spare hour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWKGYnO0Jf4

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But what about tactical nukes which wouldn’t trigger MAD?

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There has been some debate over the response to tactical Nuclear weapons - notably NATO threatened a conventional response to the use of nukes (likely meant to be read as, “We will end this war, no nukes needed.”) but it would depend massively on their usage.

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One day the fire of a thousand suns will cleans the world from good and evil alike and will bring true balance.

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One can only hope.

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Nah. It’s gonna be bird flu.

Covid shut down the world with a death rate of like 1%.

Bird flu is 56%.

Don’t let the sink in. It’s coughing and looks like it’s got Bird flu.

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I think bird flu is deadly enough that people will actually take it seriously, the survival rate of Covid was high enough it was possible you would know multiple people who’ve had it and survived.

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But if it does kick off, it’s going to kick off with absolutely the worst people in charge of managing it coupled with lunatics running podcasts who see everything as a conspiracy or are snakeoil salesman/women with a massive reach.

It’s going to rival the Black Death if it happens under Trumps administration.

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H5N1 has never left, there were outbreaks 20 years ago already

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And this time people know to get mad and deliberately cough on each other for freedom in advance, instead of just buying TP.

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My bet is, if Putin dares to drop a single nuke, he will get assassinated. Lot of secret service agents, and other enthusiasts are straight up going to try that. During war that’s allowed right?

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Mutually assured destruction is still a thing. We may not be at Cold War levels of insanity, where between the US and Russia there were enough nukes to glass the planet like 150 times over, but plenty of nations have arsenals (especially in Europe), and the best way to make enemies of the entirety of the world would be to be the first one to launch a nuke. Dropping a nuke would signal to every leader in the world that no country is safe from becoming an irradiated wasteland.

I think if Putin dropped a nuke, his allies would drop him faster than it would take NATO to declare all out war with Russia.

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You say that, and yet Exxon-Mobil have proven that actively trying to destroy the world does nothing to turn world leaders away from trying to buddy up with you.

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When you exon does it, it’s slowly and for money. So there are “winners”. Nukes have no winners.

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I read this book and it changed my opinion a little. Every scenario ends in a nuclear apocalypse, no matter who started with how much.
There might be a hero or two refusing to launch down the command line. But should we rely on that?

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My point was, the assassination goal would be him not being able to drop a second one. Also slay the first 100 people in the chain of command and leave them headless.

Cool thing is that nuclear winter will fight global warming

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Unfortunately, nobody would be able to take him out that quickly. Russia still has plenty of nukes, and they could fire them all before anybody has time to react. If that nuke is an ICBM, though, as soon as it leaves the silo the world would know, and the counter barrage of nukes would be firing up before it even lands.

I originally meant that dropping a nuke would have the entire world declare war on Russia, even his former allies because no one wants to rule over a pile of radioactive rocks, but thinking about it, his allies would probably be the ones most likely to try to have him assassinated in that situation. A maniac with a big stick is only useful so long as you don’t have to worry about him smacking you with it, too.

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nuclear winter is not a thing

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I think if you’re assassinating a public figure you’re a little past caring about what’s “allowed”

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I’ll pitch in bail money either way.

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Me too, just tell me where to send the Doge

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I was taking about like, it’s considered a war crime? Skipping the soldiers dying and straight up killing the dude.

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Well once the nuke is dropped, anything related to Geneva Conventions or any other Conventions go out the window.

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Add a soyjak with an ushanka in the bottom frame next to the chud for extra accuracy

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Fox has been pumping up the Russophobia since Putin started saber-rattling, most likely to justify Trump’s incoming “peace negotiations” that will result in sacrificing Ukrainian territory.

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They need Biden to go easy on russia until the fat orange can get in power and come save daddy putin.

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