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In my experience people who are against more Ukraine aid think that the dollar amount we send is actual cash that can be spent in other places, rather than pallets of munitions that don’t keep forever anyway.

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And a part of that is old stuff that would be decommissioned so the cash is to make the new products. Or so I have understood it.

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nah that’s right. we’ve sent ukraine a shit ton of basically decommissioned shit. and even then we’ve been weirdly stingy, and unresponsive to their non military aid requests (their biggest ask is glass)

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11 points

Uhh… why glass?

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Seems weird to ask the US for glass when they can get it from a lot closer, assuming we’re just talking about normal glass.

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And we’re also saving a bunch on disposal costs for the old stuff.

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Even for new weapons and ammo it is usually just spending on the local weapons manufacturers so basically just supporting your own economy.

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This is the most obscene attempt to understate the US’s involvement in the war in Ukraine I’ve ever seen.

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43 points

Da comrade, USA always fault. Very fault.

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Not always, but it’s the fault of the USA far more than it should be. Like a pants shittingly stupid amount of the time. Almost as pants shittingly stupid as Americans who pretend that isn’t the case.

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Good point. Chuck Norris-style thumbs up.

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It’s literal economic stimulus, US sends them old shit, and buys new and more expensive shit from local military suppliers. This is the “creating jobs” thing the right likes so much, except when it’s against Russian interests

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Yes, but it is really inefficient. If we simply ignore the nuke threat it would probably take the US a month of bombing to restore pre 2014 borders.

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10 points

One day the fire of a thousand suns will cleans the world from good and evil alike and will bring true balance.

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One can only hope.

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Nah. It’s gonna be bird flu.

Covid shut down the world with a death rate of like 1%.

Bird flu is 56%.

Don’t let the sink in. It’s coughing and looks like it’s got Bird flu.

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H5N1 has never left, there were outbreaks 20 years ago already

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And this time people know to get mad and deliberately cough on each other for freedom in advance, instead of just buying TP.

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I think bird flu is deadly enough that people will actually take it seriously, the survival rate of Covid was high enough it was possible you would know multiple people who’ve had it and survived.

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But if it does kick off, it’s going to kick off with absolutely the worst people in charge of managing it coupled with lunatics running podcasts who see everything as a conspiracy or are snakeoil salesman/women with a massive reach.

It’s going to rival the Black Death if it happens under Trumps administration.

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Fox has been pumping up the Russophobia since Putin started saber-rattling, most likely to justify Trump’s incoming “peace negotiations” that will result in sacrificing Ukrainian territory.

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They need Biden to go easy on russia until the fat orange can get in power and come save daddy putin.

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79 points

The tankies aren’t going to like this meme.

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If they browse NCD they’ll be mad a lot. People on here have the normal take on whether the North Koreans are secret Wakanda good guys, and it comes up constantly.

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I take Putin very seriously.
Us military is on the same page.

Weirdo nutjobs on the Internet create memes on how much everyone is wrong but them.

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Okay but everyone else IS wrong but me

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Add a soyjak with an ushanka in the bottom frame next to the chud for extra accuracy

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