And you don’t start sentences with capital letters.
I mean it’s better than capitalizing Random Words because you think it Looks Cool and it will Make America Great Again!
No, it’s ok! As long as you end every sentence with an exclamation mark! You can do anything! The only limitation is your imagination!
I will read anything if its all exclamation points! The exciting rise at the end of every sentence is addicting! I want to go up and down this hill all day!
We’re apes, not monkeys, though.
We’re both. Apes are a subset of old world monkeys.
e: sorry, old, not new
Didn’t some math nerd prove that they would need more time than exists in the universe to make this happen?
It’s been calculated many times, and yes, it would take an absurdly long amount of time, and that’s the point. When dealing with infinities, time is irrelevant, whether you have infinite monkeys or one monkey and infinite time, they will still both do every possible thing a monkey could do.
In fact, infinite monkeys would not only write Hamlet, they would write it instantly, an infinite number of times, and in all possible languages, as well as the possible sequel where Marvel’s Blade shows up to fight vampires. Instantly.
Good luck finding them though.
100% and you probably know this, so I’m just addin: think of infinity as a sequence of infinite numbers. The number of all the even numbers, that stretch off into infinity, are also infinite. However, that infinite number isn’t as big as regular infinity.
You can have different sizes of infinity because when things get that big, the rules change. Its almost like infinity / 2 = smaller infinity.
Well, they wouldn’t write it instantly - in the best case, they would start writing it instantly, and finish in optimal time. However, it’s possible that no monkey would actually write it on the first try - we’d have to get into some complex predictions on monkey brains and physiology, it’s possible that with their brains and muscle structure they wouldn’t go for the kinds of character sequences to produce Hamlet, perhaps changing up patterns enough to produce something more random only after a certain amount of time.
Depending on how you formulate the experiment, it could be that no monkey could finish it before physiologically having to take a break or something, returning to specific patterns afterwards that would render it impossible for it to finish writing Hamlet, and thus no monkey would ever write Hamlet in a continuous string of characters, from start to end.
But yeah, if we just say they’re typing completely random characters without pause forever, yup, infinity dictates some fraction of monkeys would immediately be on the right track and finish writing as soon as possible, for anything you can think of.
That only is true with limited amounts of monkeys. A million might not do it in the first try, but an infinite amount would mean one of those monkeys at least would do it first try. Which monkey that is is just as absurd as asking when it will happen when we use infinite time instead.
Is the point of these logic memes to illustrate the properties of infinity or to prove a point about what can or cant be done though?
The whole premise of the analogy is that the typed characters are random, which is why the animal in it is one that doesn’t understand written English. The point being that over an infinite amount of time, even totally random typing will, by definition, eventually produce any specified sequence.
OOP doesn’t get it, nor does anyone who finds this clever.
I am, because my jokes are actually good, since I know how to actually construct a good joke, lol.
I bet, great story man. Hey I’ll be right back I just need to go grab a drink, catch you in a second…
Struck a nerve, huh?
It’s like writing a joke based on the premise that exercise makes you gain weight. It doesn’t, so any joke based on that is going to fall flat, except for people who think it does, lol.
You spend calories (energy) on exercises and therefore loose weigh (mass) in that process immediately. But that process also breaks protein molecules in your muscles and in heavier workloads it results in your body rebuilding those muscles with sort of muscle scars that will get bigger than the original muscles was and that will eventually lead to weight gain in longer time span. Or do you deny the existence of bodybuilding entirely?
We’re apes though.
Great ones even!
I’m not entirely sure that statement is correct, but it’s been a while since I took any anthropology courses…
Edit: I was wrong and remembered the tree incorrectly.
It is correct. I’ve been corrected on this before and did the research to discover I was wrong. Humans are Monkeys.
Family tree of primates. As you can see, old world monkeys and new world monkeys share their last common ancestor with the apes. That means that phylogenetically, that if they are both monkeys, then so are all the apes.
