President Biden’s hypocrisy on full display: Pardons his own son after making a point about ‘independent’ justice"

In a move that’s being hailed as a “full and unconditional” pardon, President Joe Biden has announced that he’s granting his son Hunter Biden a free pass for all federal charges related to his time between 2014-2024. Just 50 days before leaving office, Biden had previously declared that he wouldn’t be making the move, stating he’d abide by the jury’s decision. But now, it seems he was just playing a different tune.

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President Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden, who was facing up to 25 years in prison for lying on a federal form about his drug addiction. This comes after months of saying he wouldn’t make the move, and is being met with criticism from politicians and others who called him out on his earlier stance. A case of “my family is more important than I am” - how about keeping your promises for once?

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Didn’t biden admin pardon non-violent drug offenders?

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Also no he didn’t.

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Definitely pardoned non-violent, non-distributing cannabis users. Doesn’t expand to other drugs that it should, but that’s a lot of convictions.

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Yes for marijuana possession convictions specifically at a federal level, he felt he didn’t have the authority to pardon State convictions.

after he overturned all the federal convictions, he said:

"Just as no one should be in a federal prison solely due to the use or possession of marijuana, no one should be in a local jail or state prison for that reason, either”

https://apnews.com/article/biden-marijuana-pardons-clemency-02abde991a05ff7dfa29bfc3c74e9d64

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he felt he didn’t have the authority to pardon State convictions.

That’s because he doesn’t have that authority. Your quote is him gently hinting to the states that they should follow his lead, but there’s nothing he can do to force them to.

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I don’t think the president can pardon for state crimes. I mean, at least this supreme court isn’t gonna let Biden pardon for state crimes anyways.

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Does that make up for all the 3rd strike your out victims me boot tastes so good?

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You eat your own boots??

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It would have been nice if he could have used his presidential powers

to prevent the genocide…

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Or to change that stupid ATF form 4473 which basically requires anyone who smokes weed to either commit a felony by lying (checking the box for they don’t use illegal drugs) or tell the truth (checking the box that they do) and being unable to purchase a firearm. Unfortunately the war on law abiding gun owners had to continue so on a few occasions their position continued to be that marijuana users should not be allowed to buy or own firearms.

Hypocrisy+++++

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That question is required by HR 1025 (“The Brady Act”). To get rid of weed as a factor, there would either need to be a change to the form requirement, or weed to be made federally legal and thus not an illegal substance. The requirement is not an ATF determination.

Joe Biden could theoretically pardon all people in violation of this, but I wouldn’t hold my breath for a blanket universal pardon involving guns and weed together.

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Joe Biden could theoretically pardon all people in violation of this, but I wouldn’t hold my breath for a blanket universal pardon involving guns

Nope. Biden’s DOJ was happily pushing the ‘weed users can’t have guns’ as one angle of gun control, while the administration was simultaneously pushing the ‘weed shouldn’t be persecuted’ angle. Quite hypocritical really.

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Or anything he promised to do while in office

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ITT: people who ignored the persecution Hunter has faced and are judging this on only an extremely shallow level

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ITC: people who ignored the sheer levels of privilege on display.

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ITT a couple instances acting exactly how you’d expect those people to act.

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Good decision. Trump and his gang promised all kinds of revenge. They don’t play by the rules. So it makes sense to do whatever for your last son.

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I think the issue a lot of us have with this is less that he’s stooping to Trump’s level, and more that he’s only doing it to help his own family. Abusing the office of the president is apparently fine and good if its done on behalf of someone who’s name is Biden, but the rest of the planet can get fucked.

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I mostly agree. This is abuse of Presidential power so it is hypocritical for liberals to deny that… But, at the same time, if I were in Biden’s situation I would likely do the same. And here is why:

  1. It is his son. His last son. Of course any loving father will do whatever they can to protect their son.

  2. Why should Democrats care what Republicans think? Democrats are getting curb stomped by fascists who give zero shit about the integrity of our institutions or abuse of political power. They truly don’t. People voted for a pedophile felon traitorous oligarch. If you agree to an honorable sparring match of fisty-cuffs and your opponent pulls out a glock and shoots you in the knees and the crowd cheers for the cheater, do you have any moral or pragmatic reason to keep playing by the rules? No.

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I mean… there’s another read on this whole thing, too: “huh, I guess everyone voted for nepotism and insider deals, so why the fuck not, especially in this context?”

Biden’s just giving the electorate a preview of what they voted for.

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Is he though? Isn’t one of the purposes of presidential pardons to protect a person from unjust political persecution. If Republicans weren’t Trump’s party I would agree it’s nepotism, but it is Trump’s party who will be in power. Trump has vowed to seek revenge on his opponents. Joe Biden is too old to really be punished as much as the Republicans want him to be, but Hunter Biden has many years left. MAGA Republicans could punish him for their hate of his father for at least four years, if not the rest of his life. Isn’t that one of the purposes of a presidential pardon?

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“Unjust political persecution” - in whose eyes? Trump pardoned a lot of his cronies (for a likely quid-pro-quo) that were involved in J6 - is that a good use of pardon powers?

A president’s or governor’s pardon is inherently anti-democratic and political. One person gets to decide if the Justice System is allowed to finish it’s work or not, and thus we avoid having to address the why that in/justice was done by the system in the first place. When Biden pardoned non-violent drug offenders, that was a good use of pardon to reincorporate people who had erred and give them a second chance in society - but it did nothing for those who will fall foul of those same laws still on the federal register. The same with every death penalty clemency - we solve the scenario without addressing the issue.

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Agreed. This gives Hunter the chance to maybe even move somewhere outside the country if he needs to.

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The thing you’re leaving out is that they deliberately targeted his family. Correcting that miscarriage of justice is not abusing the office, unless you’re saying that Hunter has less rights than anyone else because of who his father is.

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Good decision. Trump and his gang promised all kinds of revenge. They don’t play by the rules. So it makes sense to do whatever for your last son.

I would hope those that oppose Trump do not just adopt all his behaviors.

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Fight fire with fire, if you keep going high the other party will realize it means they can go low and you’ll never do anything about it.

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I hate this approach and would rather lose. The high road is the only road. I take it not because it is easy, but because it is worthwhile.

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I mean I fucking hate Biden’s guts but it literally makes no sense to leave his son at the victim mercy of Trump. Whatever Hunter was getting was never going to be justice either way.

Edit: I Engrished.

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This shows that none of the 2 parties believe that the democratic system in the USA works anymore.
Which means, it’s dead now.

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Didn’t the Justice Department originally decide not to pursue charges until Republicans threw a fit? Seems like it was already a politically motivated prosecution, so I have no issues with a political pardon.

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Agreed. If Hunter Biden’s issues hadn’t been politically weaponized so much, I doubt Biden would have done it, but the truth is, with Trump coming in to office and threatening retaliation, it makes sense to pardon him.

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The crimes Hunter was charged with are rarely enforced and rarely involve jail time. The Republican’s made this a political circus that would have certainly had Hunter doing time. If it wasn’t for that, Joe would not have needed to pardon him.

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Honestly I kinda like the idea of people in high places doing time for things us plebs might, but my concern is Hunter getting the Epstein treatment, so I think the pardon is warranted.

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Then pardon Vindman, Liz Cheney, and everyone else who didn’t commit actual crimes that Trump will actually take revenge on too. Or just admit this is plain nepotism.

I voted for Harris, but I’m also sick of watching Biden single-handedly prop up MAGA with his ridiculous bullshit. And we’re not doing ourselves any favors by trying to justify this - the election’s over, we can stop pretending we like this guy now. Replace the failed leaders, yell at them until they go into the private sector. Now is the best time.

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Well this is just plain nepotism. I don’t think anyone is questioning that. Maga doesn’t need any propping up, they won. They won by doing a lot more than nepotism and promising even more of it. It’s what people want it seems.

A grandpa at the end of his life doing something for his only son, how does that even matter.

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If we’re going to start abusing presidential power preemptively, can we get some sort of executive protections for trans rights or waiving student loans? Things that’ll help someone other than the addict failson?

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Trump would just cancel them all. Day one like he did last time.

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Canceling student loans would be hard to undo though. If we’re shutting down the Department of education anyway… who’s keeping track?

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This doesn’t change that or do anything to prevent it

It’s entirely unrelated

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Yeah even the president isn’t going to stand behind the American justice system.

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Nice. Hopefully Biden keeps doing more good shit in his remaining few weeks while the MAGAt snowflakes are triggered and distracted by Hunter’s dick again.

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