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UnitedHealth uses AI model with 90% error rate to deny care, lawsuit alleges

https://arstechnica.com/health/2023/11/ai-with-90-error-rate-forces-elderly-out-of-rehab-nursing-homes-suit-claims/

328 points

CEOs have not been held accountable for their actions by the legal system. This is inevitable with the way the United States is set up

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172 points

If this happens to two or three more CEOs over the next couple of months, they’ll change their position on gun control, not change their behaviors that made somebody do this. And “they’re coming for our guns” morons would find a way to not only excuse it, but fully support it, at least at first.

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110 points

If this happens to multiple CEOs, companies will just implement secret-service style security for the C-suite. Wouldn’t even be a rounding error in CEO compensation.

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20 points

We really are just a few years away from Cyberpunk, aren’t we? I’d actually say a mix of both that, and Cloud Atlas’ last timeline.

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19 points

Nah, the US will just provide secret service details to any and all C level execs.

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17 points

I mean having to live in a fortress and being afraid to go into a coffee shop without armed guards is no way to live… it wouldn’t be a fun time for those poor, sociopathic bastards. But I guess having those extra digits in their bank accounts makes up for it?

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14 points

they already do that shit. elon already has a pretty big security retinue and his ass almost never goes out in actual public anymore, only ever hosts private events with verified people and pretty good security. most CEOs and billionaires aren’t gonna be that paranoid, but most of them don’t have to be, and they already tend to live in totally different contexts than your average person.

what I’d be more interested in knowing is how this guy figured out that this particular guy was going to be outside this particular hotel at this particular time. this wasn’t a crime of pure opportunity, this was something which seems like it was probably planned in advance. if it was publicly accessible where this guy was going, that’s a much easier and cheaper thing for businesses and CEOs to solve, and is probably the most important part of this kind of security.

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4 points

Sounds like the miserable existence they deserve.

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26 points

Absolutely this, this is a nucleation point for disarming the citizenship. Step one for a dictatorship.

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6 points

NYS has already done this, by and large.

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If this happens to two or three more CEOs over the next couple of months, they’ll change their position on gun control,

Say what? Nearly every CEO who is willing to talk about firearms is already pushing for more Gun Control with both their words and their money. The obvious exceptions are of course Firearm CEOs and maybe Elon Musk.

Seriously, have you ever looked at whose funding all of the Gun Control efforts and Politicians in this country? It’s a veritable whose who of Democrat Billionaires and CEOs.

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NYS already banned suppressors for the plebes. Only cops can buy them in NYS. And its highly unlikely they had a NYC permit, for carry, only cops get easy NYC permits, and also C execs like this guy who pays off the right people, in the correct amounts.

So, this means, it must have been a cop that did the shooting. Because it could have been an oligarch with the legal gun, but they couldn’t get a suppressor in NYS.

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15 points

You can make a pistol suppressor from seamless tubing and steel wool, threaded barrels are not uncommon or controlled. You’ll be missing the booster needed for reliability, and it’s not going to be very good, but expansion chamber volume is expansion chamber volume. Reportedly the shooter had more than one malfunction, which lends credence to a DIY can, or a shitty gun.

If the goal is murder, another +15 years for NFA violations isn’t a big deterrent.

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they’ll just define “our” as “voted republican” - EZ Clap

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So then just buy illegal guns to carry out your crimes. Problem solved.

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Are you under the impression that pro2a people are corporate shills? Lol the fuck

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It’s funny you think they’re not. They’ve been dick-riding manufacturers and lifestyle companies for decades. How much “Glock” or “Mossberg” merch have you seen out there? Those are eager corpo shills.

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5 points

I implore you to learn about the history and funding of the NRA.

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4 points

They are inadvertently. Corporations say the right words and the pro2a people fall in line. Look at all of the millions of citizens that voted directly against their best interests in November because they’ve effectively been fed messages that made them disregard what actually effects them. Obviously not all pro2a people are in this camp, but there’s a lot of overlap between those folks and people getting manipulated by other rich and powerful forces.

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as a hobby, it’s basically just another form of consumerism, and the culture surrounding it is not unlike that of car culture, with the same purported values. freedom, agency, maintaining control over your own life, it’s all just marketing speak to drive customer traffic, and ends up being politicized only really insofar as everything must exist inside of a political context.

there are definitely advantages to having guns for certain populations, certainly, marginalized populations that are already at risk, but those populations already have more prevalent firearms use for obvious reasons, and would probably maintain higher firearms use rates regardless of legality as a result of their marginalization, where more strict gun laws won’t really factor in, or rather, would be just another meaningless slap-on charge to extend sentencing.

most of your other actual pro2a people are gonna by random hobbyists, hunters, and fudds, who can’t really be expected to put up any organized resistance against anything, and the other half are people who would already be a fan of any plan to march around and take away other people’s guns, because they’re ex-military chuds, or cops, or what have you.

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58 points

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”

Hopefully this makes all those money grubbing assholes consider how many of the millions of people they’ve fucked over have access to firearms and their location.

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There’s an interesting book called Narconomics: How to run a drug cartel that goes into detail about why there’s so much violence in the drug world. It all comes down to there not being a legal system where people can peacefully resolve disputes.

If Pepsi stole Coke’s formula and brand name, Coke would sue them. But if a rival cartel infringes on your territory, you have no choice but to get to murdering.

Now, I don’t know the motivations of why this healthcare CEO was shot - and I don’t condone violence. But I will say that I see some strong parallels where it feels hopeless from a consumer point of view when dealing with insurance companies. The whole process, including the legal system, seems tailored to take away your power. So I’m not at all surprised that violence has occurred.

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Thompson, who was named CEO in April 2021, was pronounced dead at Mount Sinai West.

Good thing he had health insurance for his stay at Mount Sinai; some aren’t so lucky thanks to worthless puddles of filth like this.

Edit: Zero sympathy. Negative sympathy, even.

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Link above to ARS Technica article titled: UnitedHealth uses AI model with 90% error rate to deny care, lawsuit alleges.

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239 points

Are they sure it wasn’t a pre-existing condition?

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64 points

Yeah, it’s crazy how terminal affluenza can be these days

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UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot outside NYC hotel in ‘premeditated, preplanned targeted attack’

premeditated

preplanned

Ah, so a preexisting condition. So sorry, law enforcement can’t do anything about it.

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176 points

Insurance companies regularly commit acts of violence on the poor and sick for the benefit of their bottom line. People literally die because of the decisions this CEO made, so when the shoe is on the other foot, don’t come crying because we know you’re not an innocent actor, insurance company.

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