As it was said on Some More News. The democrats should harness the hatred towards the rich elites instead of playing into Trump’s anti-immigrant game.
That’s not how political parties work, though. Political parties are largely ideological institutions, they exist first and foremost not to win elections but to propagate an ideology, and winning the election is just a sign that they succeeded in their goal of convincing people of their ideology, and so now enough people agree that it can take root in the state. When political parties lose, it’s very rare that they will interpret their loss as “we need to abandon all our values to match the opinion polls.” No, they interpret their loss as meaning they failed in their goal of convincing people of their values, and thus should change their strategy of their out-reach, not changing their whole ideological position.
Democrats going against the rich elites would be an abandonment of their party’s values and everything they stand for. In most countries, if you dislike the ideology of a party, you vote for someone else. The party itself has no obligation to change its entire ideology for you, such a thing very rarely occurs. If that was the case, then every political party would all have the exact same position, just all copy/pastes of whatever the opinion polls say.
I keep seeing all this bizarre rhetoric about how if the Democrats were “smart” they would just abandon their whole party’s platform and adopt some other platform, but this makes zero sense, because you have to consider motivation. Their motivation is not to just win the election, but to convince you of their ideology, and abandoning their ideology does not achieve this. Democrats are not stupid, they just don’t have the same motivations as you. Yes, they want to win, but they ultimately want to win on their platform, not on someone else’s platform.
That’s how political parties work. They have a platform, and the platform is paramount. If a green party adopted all pro-coal and pro-oil lobby positions just to win an election, that would not be a “smart” decision for them, because, even if it leads to their victory, it still is an abandonment of their ideology. Democrats are unabashedly a pro-rich elite party, it should not be smart for them to become anti-elite, because it is not aligned with their motivations.
I made a large collection of screenshots from Facebook of people who had their claims denied by United Healthcare today.
the billionaire surveillance guy wants us all to start wearing glasses that record everything.
that is to protect the billionaire surveillance guy not to protect the rest of us just like cops wearing body cams is not to protect non-cops. they would even build in a way to remotely disable the bodycams if they could.
surprise surprise.
that said seeing United Health’s stock drop more than 25% since open this morning does feel like xmas. I’m all in on them losing money and status and access to protection. but without them having to live in the fear that the rest of us have for decades is a bit of a … i don’t have a word for that.
Democrats never saw a billionaire or war they didn’t love.
Genuinely confused by the responses here. Like what do you want him to say? Because no politician is going to come out and say “Yay Assassinations”.
Jesus Christ no wonder American is is the dam shape it’s in because of bullshit like this. The political IQ of a four year old
Something along the lines of “Murder is wrong but also this man’s policies at his company led to a third of people’s claims being denied and 22 billion dollars just last year being taken as profit off people actively having their healthcare denied and maybe, just maybe, we should do something about that.”
Personally, if I were in the position, I’d say something like: “It is a tragedy that a murder happened. No one should ever feel like murder is the only chance at justice.” Maybe expand on it a bit and add a link to a bill proposed to either fix the justice system to not favor the rich, a bill that forces health insurance companies to do a better job and not be as greedy, or, even better, a bill that provides Medicare for all.
Option 1: say nothing. A lot of politicians did this.
Option 2: be vague. We saw a lot of this BS during the pandemic to somewhat appear like you care. “We are in trying times.”
Option 3: not include the “a terrible loss for the business and health care communities”. So he is rubbing shoulders.
That’s 3 options right there. Am I’m not even a political strategist.
Jesus Christ no wonder American is is the dam shape it’s in because of bullshit like this. The political IQ of a four year old
And the effect of media bubbles. Including self-selected ones, not just algorithm driven bubbles.
The plurality of voters this last election voted for greed and selfishness as celebrated norms. Over a third of voters said they didn’t care. Of the remainder, a significant percentage of them are obsessed with civility and the proper way of doing things.
Laughing about capitalist cunts getting their just desserts is funny, but not as popular in touch-grassville as it is on Lemmy, and public figures have to deal with that fact
Yes, the pundits are saying DISCLAIMER: Shooting is bad. Murder is bad before they talk about how the healthcare service executive really had it coming.
And that’s coming from the liberals, not us radical left pinko-commies who have Bolshevik choruses back us up when we talk.
Worst part is, touch-grassvile itself is still fucking absurd. They’re out there touching the grass and blaming their heavy breathing on grass allergies, while us shut-ins are noting the coal plant two miles upwind of the town that’s caused a drastic uptick in asthma attacks.
But the vast majority of people are normals who are out there fucking with the grass and asspatting each other for being so in-touch with their surroundings, and we have to deal with that.
Like what do you want him to say?
Nothing. Nothing would be perfectly acceptable. See: https://lemmy.cafe/post/10402549/8792150
Edit: Also, a mitigating alternative I would accept would at the very least not laud the “business and healthcare community.”
I want him to bring up jury nullification. I want him to randomly list countries with no extradition treaty. I want him to post the names and addresses of more health insurance CEOs.
I thought these M O T H E R F U C K E R S were supposed to be “representatives”.