Loss? What loss, Tim? Besides the families that have been torn apart and sickened over the years by this man and his board of ghouls? I see none.
Funny how the politicians and the media react with horror, but the entire rest of the Internet has an entirely different reaction. I wonder why.
A person died, murdered in cold blood. That person had people that loved him. Politicians need to be respectful. Would you prefer they celebrated the execution of mass murderers on death row?
Itβs a horrendous thing. To see a person killed before their time when they didnβt have to die. Just like what happens to thousands of Americans each year who are denied coverage. If weβre actually honest with ourselves, the only reason this one is seen as a tragedy by politicians and CEOs is that there was no profit to be had in it.
edit: spelling
Yes but saying the mass murderers death is a terrible loss to society is kind of silly, no?
Who said that? Iβm talking about the human, not the employee. Weβre also talking about an official political statement, not public discourse.
He had a family. Seriously. Politicians publicly telling his children, βWeβre all happy your dad is dead because of his career choice!β just doesnβt resonate with me.
Define what βcold bloodβ means to you. To me it sounds like you mean the assassin didnβt have a motive, and seeing as this CEO directly profited from denying people live saving healthcare, thereβs a pretty fucking big motivation.
Maybe because people on the internet are mostly anonymous?
edit = someone pointed out that many people post their actual names, so I added βmostlyβ
i find itβs always helpful to follow the money in these situations. obviously we were all paid off by Big Woke. weβre financially invested in these institutions being seen as murderous. obviously.
idk what that is but sounds an awful lot like the term βwokeβ β¦ blocked
Sometimes, the best thing they can do is to not say anything. Walz could have said nothing, and pretty well nobody would have been upset about it.
Politicians have to say a lot of things whether they mean them or not.
I like ex-New York Mayor Ed Kochβs take on voting. βIf you agree with me 51% of the time, vote for me. If you agree with me 100% of the time, see a psychiatrist.β
Politicians do NOT have to run a dishonest campaign. They just canβt help themselves. Inb4 the obligatory BoTh SiDeS comment.
no campaigning or politicking here, just pure statesman. his words are absolutely appropriate and expected from a government leader.
Which is part of the problem. This whole expectation that our leaders should hide their true feelings and motivations behind a veil of niceties only serves their goals of hiding such things from the people trying to figure out who to vote for. We should know who our politicians are as actual people, since itβs the person they are in private that will motivate their actions within the government, not the nice face they put on for the public.
Ah yes, the actual original meaning of politically correct.
His words were awful and defending a mass murderer that has killed at least tens of thousands of Americans just during his tenure because their boss decided to cheap out is beyond disgusting for a political candidate, much less someone in office that wants to remain in office with all their body parts still attached.
Does he comment on every death? If not, then he shouldnβt say anything here either.
United βHealthcareβ is headquartered in Minnesota, and for high profile deaths relevant to the state, yeah he kinda does.
Agreed, I think that he should have said nothing or perhaps bring out the point that beyond how people may or may not feel we should not aim to live In a society that privilege vigilante that take justice in there hand as it can quickly slip into a very bad placeβ¦ I see people suggesting a purgeβ¦ I would recommend those people go out and meet some of the victims of the Rwandan genocide and see how they feel with there so called brave wordsβ¦
Itβs easy to spout such things using social media because we are anonymous but we do not want such violence to reproduce itselfβ¦ This is how collateral damage happens. In Montreal an 11 year old child died because of a car bomb that was set by the Rock Machines as retaliation against the Hells Angelβsβ¦ No one won that day, we only lost a fraction of our soul as a society when we had to bury a child.
This is the problem, this time someone did a clean shot, what if the killer choses bombs and causes collateral damage. Will any of you sacrifice your children for this so called justice?
Politicians are almost all sociopaths, not even trying to be funny. Sometimes they do things you like and sometimes they dont, but that never has anything to do with the interests and priorities of citizens. They are just people whose job is acting their entire life according to some doctrine, they dont have real personalities.
The political system we live under is rotting. Itβs holding us back, suffocating real democracy, and clinging to relics of an era we shouldβve buried centuries ago. Why are we still pretending centralized power structures, dominated by presidents and parliaments, are the best we can do? Itβs time to turn the whole thing upside down. Imagine power flowing not from the top down but bubbling up from councilsβreal, grassroots bodies in towns, workplaces, and universities where people directly decide what matters to them. No presidents. No untouchable elites. Just democracy as it was meant to be: local, participatory, and alive.
Critics say that direct democracy would be too costly and cumbersome in large countries. But thatβs a lie told to make us think power belongs anywhere but in our hands. The truth is, it doesnβt work their wayβinfrequent, clunky referenda that barely scratch the surface of what real participation looks like. But why not councils that meet regularly, that use technology we already have to count votes and hear every voice? Why not frequent, transparent, and accessible decision-making? We have the tools. What we lack is the willβand thatβs on us.
And about the politicians. Theyβve turned ruling into a career. They live above us, pocket bribes, rub shoulders with CEOs, and laugh at the idea of accountability. Enough. All representatives should be recallable at any time, earning no more than the median workerβs salary. Partial sortition (random official selection) could ensure even more fairness. It worked in ancient Greece which was (for the free male citizens ofc) closer to actual democracy than the unaccountable neo-aristocratic order we have today, so why not today when we have the formal equality before the law and equal rights, but we know the reality.
But if no one will be above anyone because everyone will get their chance to actually change something about the world and their life without running into the stone walls of the system, it will be a complete revolution in human relations that will uproot the poisonous root of disdain so many feel for their fellow humans for simply being worse off than them.
Imagine a system where politics isnβt about who has power but about how power flows and where the needs of the people are actually heard and resolved. Blockchain (and no, Iβm abso-fucking-lutely not a cryptobro. PoW is still useful for things like captcha replacements but the whole thing is the biggest example of capitalismβs way of turning useful and promising inventions into means of speculation and outright scams by and large) could be used to make the process more transparent than ever. Itβs not the technology that hold us back, but their fear of us using it to take whatβs ours.
Term limits, too. No one should sit in power long enough to forget what life is like for the rest of us. Politics should be service, not a career. If weβre serious about democracy, every single one of usβno matter how βuneducatedβ weβre told we areβneeds to learn how to govern. Because democracy isnβt just voting for the lesser evil every few years. Itβs taking the reins of your life, your community, your future. Itβs about ruling instead of being ruled.
Hereβs the thing: the ruling class will not go quietly. When we start to take real power into our hands, theyβll fight back. Theyβll use every dirty trick in the book to claw it back. Thatβs how this game works. But if we stand together, if we build a united force that canβt be undermined, if we refuse to let fear or complacency stop usβthen they lose. And we win something they can never take away: the power to determine our destiny. Thatβs whatβs at stake. Letβs stop settling for scraps. Itβs time to demand the whole damn table.
remember when everyone thought this guy was gonna secretly turn bernie-bro the Kamala campaign into being good