As per .world worldnews mod, no discussing naughty stuff like jury nullification.

While this post is blowing up, here’s the book referenced by the shooter:

Delay Deny Defend - Why Insurance Companies Don’t Pay Claims and What You Can Do About It

By request: Full, uncensored video of the shooting. (Fucking obviously NSFW)

Jury nullification: A practical FAQ

Do I have to answer questions about jury nullification?

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Look, fuck dotworld. Every fucking day there are posts on there crying about leftist instances, and urging everyone to defederate from .ml and hexbear. Meanwhile this is their moderation style: suppressing wildly popular opinion that threatens the liberal/capitalist status quo. They’re already too big. Don’t let them monopolize Lemmy like they want. Join almost any other instance.

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Meanwhile this is their moderation style: suppressing wildly popular opinion that threatens the liberal/capitalist tankie/dictatorial communist status quo.

This is dotML. Dotworld isn’t great with their style of moderation, but ML is very much the same but for different boot they’re licking.

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Did I tell people to join .ml or hexbear?

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No. It looks like you told people to “join almost any other instance.” That’s a strange reaction from Crabby. I guess they’re just annoyed.

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Ya know, I feel the “every day” is a little overblown (hell maybe it isn’t, I don’t need receipts lol)…but yeah the way you phrased the rest of that is exactly what was itching in the back of my brain but that I couldn’t put together quite yet and needed to hear. I’ll get moved over somewhere else, thanks for the nudge.

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Give it a day or two for the LW admins to respond. Remember, they’re not doing this as a full time job. This only happened today, and I would expect change on the instance to take more than one day.

Also most of the mods on LW only have one big community. Different communities will have different standards.

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What are you talking about? The post is about a LW admin declaring that discussing jury nullification is grounds for banning. Did you mean to reply to something else?

Edit: Not admin, worldnews mod

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They’re not an admin, they’re a community mod and they’re talking out of their ass.

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Right. I just realised that. So either they know something or they’re making false claims and the admins need to remove him.

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I believe that’s a mod, not an admin.

https://fedihosting.foundation/lw-team/

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Ah whoops. OK, mod making a declaration on behalf of the admin team, it looks like.

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I consider human life sacred

Like the lives of those cut short by denying treatment so CEOs and shareholders can make more money?

only God may judge us

Oh, fuck off. If God exists and actually cared, he/she/they would have “judged” the guy a long time ago for introducing needless suffering and cruelty.

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god is the most cruel entity in the entirety of the bible. kills the most people, causes the most suffering. how anyone can read that book and come away with a positive view of that beast is unfathomable.

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I agree, but that wasn’t quite the point I was trying to make.

The moderator was on a moral superiority high-horse by suggesting that “only God may judge” a guy who served as the judge for other’s lives through complacent inaction and encouraging policies that put personal gain over humanity.

The only way that argument wouldn’t have been hypocritical is if he agreed that God was a cruel bastard, and I don’t think that was the case.

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ahh yep, great points.

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I mean, needless suffering and cruelty are kinda that god’s bag…

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That’s why I added “and actually cared” :)

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only god may judge us

Is a great argument for jury nullification. Because that will allow for god to decide the shooters verdict.

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If god is omnipotent, everything that happens is a result of his judgement.

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Omnipotent, omnipresent, and benevolent, yes.

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Benevolent is very debatable gestures widely at genocide and children dying of cancer

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It is impossible for a being to be omnipotent, omniscient, and benevolent given the amount of suffering in the world. They can only be two of the three at most:

Omnipotent + omniscient = Knows about evil, can stop it, but chooses not to.

Omnipotent + benevolent = Can do something about evil and wants to stop it, is too oblivious to on a large scale.

Omniscient + benevolent = Knows about evil and wants to stop it, is powerless to do anything significant about it.

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26 points

God judged and sent an assassin if we’re gonna play the whole believe in god game

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31 points

lemmy.ml gonna ride this for a month lmao

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It was pretty well known before this that .world are liberals.

The mods there were always on a power trip if you said the “wrong” thing.

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I’d urge you to look at the mod logs and note the amount of “rule 1” violations that the .ml mods remove on a daily basis that don’t violate a single rule 1.

And while you’re at it, go ahead and note how many .ml accounts post daily in communities on .world that are as anti-liberal as it can get that aren’t removed.

.world actually upholds the rules. And there’s proof of that in the mod logs.

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See that’s the thing about spreading misinformation like you’re doing. When the reader already knows the truth, your comment just becomes hilarious.

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9 points

neo lib regime whore larpers =/= liberal

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Yeah, I’ve had that happen more on .ml than on .world before switching.

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Isn’t basically every Lemmy instance liberal though? At least I haven’t seen any conservative Lemmy instances yet.

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Depending on who you ask, the Liberal instances are the conservative instances on Lemmy.

The Overton window of Lemmy doesn’t recognise mainstream conservatism as a legitimate political ideology (rightfully so).

So the arguments of left and right are focussed between authoritarian left and social democrats.

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lol like you need the ammo to talk about how your instance is garbo

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5 points

Fuck the censors who think they can decide what others talk about!

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They keep trying to take down my post where I dox one of the Neo-Nazis from x.

Go ahead and ban my fucking account I don’t give a shit. I’ll just spoof my device fingerprint and continue to dox on a new account.

Cyan Cruz 14008 Echo Ln, Austin, TX 78732

Make Nazis afraid again

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Doxxing is pretty bad though, and there’s no reason anyone should just go believing a claim like that.

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Not as bad as being a Nazi.

Violence is warranted sometimes. Especially when the future of your country is at stake

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