13 points

In an ideal world (therefore not ruled by humans) the word CEO would just mean that someone has to take care of the “big picture” duties and(/or?) owns the company. Yes, they would have more income than the average cannon fodder, but nothing crazy.

Being a CEO shouldn’t mean anything bad on its own. Too bad we’re just humans, therefore inherently greedy and selfish to various extents, and obviously the most scummy, selfish, greedy pricks just get selected into the role more often (or born into it). Just be aware that CEO ≠ evil automatically.

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I think people are pretty clear that it’s not the ceo part that makes people evil, it’s just that the behavior it normally takes to get to that position within a big company is basically never rainbows and Mr Rogers.

That ‘financial responsibility to maximize shareholder profit’ isn’t a joke and it often takes people with very little empathy to do it. With maybe some exceptions for some small companies or people who built the business from the ground up, i can’t think of a single person in a CEO role, or aspiring to one, that would make anything close to a good ‘friend’, or even what most people would consider a good person.

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12 points

You can’t be a CEO of lots of these companies and act ethically.

Like: legally.

They have a legal fiduciary duty to maximize profits for shareholders. That trumps everything else, including the lives of customers and employees.

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One thing to note: that hasn’t always been the case. This is something that can change.

It really started in the late 1970s with the Friedman Doctrine.

The Friedman doctrine, also called shareholder theory, is a normative theory of business ethics advanced by economist Milton Friedman which holds that the social responsibility of business is to increase its profits. This shareholder primacy approach views shareholders as the economic engine of the organization and the only group to which the firm is socially responsible. As such, the goal of the firm is to increase its profits and maximize returns to shareholders.

I’m trying to find the story I listened to about this on NPR a few years ago, but it essentially discussed how this doctrine was taken up after the stagflation in the 1970s (particularly as Reagan was heavily influenced by Milton Friedman). The main point was that it seemed like the traditional economic system was collapsing at that time, and Friedman’s ideas argued that it was because businesses were not focused enough on profits. Instead, many businesses were trying to be part of a broader community and work on doing things that were good for the public. Friedman’s idea was that this was too economically inefficient and that a businesses only ethical obligation should be to make money for the shareholders, and that the shareholders could decide for themselves on how too help the public.

This went over very well with business leaders, and it helped ushered in the Gordon Gecko era of unironic “greed is good”.

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81 points

CEO here (seriously). I would like to officially state that avoiding actions that would entice someone to assassinate me has not put an undue burden on my career. Just want to put that out there.

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28 points

Consider giving your company to your employees.

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This is the same as owning a car, and then someone walks up to you on the street and says “consider giving your car to that man who is walking”.

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10 points

This isn’t a good analogy. The man who is walking is not directly contributing to the car or having anything to do with the car.

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That was really stupid.

He doesn’t contribute to your car. Your employees contribute to your company. “That man who is walking” makes no contribution to your life. Your employees do.

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7 points

What? Whatever else it is, it is nothing like your car example

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It is a C Corp. Ownership is split between the senior staff, and I am not a majority holder and I am nowhere near the highest paid employee. Every senior staff hire gets ownership.

CEO doesn’t mean owner. In my case I am more of club coach managing a bunch of star athletes.

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4 points

Maybe look into seeing if everyone else would be ok with that as an exit strategy? It’s being tried in a few places and there’s a firm(s?) that guide ownership who wants to sell to the employees.

Very context dependant, I’d imagine

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19 points

Sounds like you did consider it, youre definitely one the good ones.

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Does that mean you don’t do bad shit, or you’re just not afraid of being shot? 🤔

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5 points

Can’t scare me out of my vicious business practices with a threat of assassination if I hate myself so much I want to die 😎

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2 points

Guys I think he’s bulletproof let’s try shooting him

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2 points

"bad shit’ is relative. Who among us are without sin? I think conflating the CEO of a local retail business with CEO of a national company specializing in collecting medical debt is not healthy to increasing support for systemic change. Could the local ceo pay the cashier’s more? probably… But so could small business owners in general. Should we get mad at someone for choosing a repair person that charges less for a job? Why not pay someone else more for their labor? How much more? Pretty soon the finger pointing is so ubiquitous it’s irrelevant.

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2 points

…did you just answer a direct question to someone else?

I guess we’ll find out all of your mysteries the second he replies.

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4 points

Penis mightier than the sword for sure

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Thank god Trump is not a jealous nor envious type. Thank god the revenge seeking reprobate that got elected wouldn’t be full of glee to see other rich people without SS protection feel scared.

Trump got liberals to hate on his enemies before he even took office again.

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19 points

If billionaires are his enemies, he’s been making some strange appointments

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