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Only on Android and Windows.

Zero issues on Linux and MacOS

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Wait a second, iOS is chock full of garbage that you can’t uninstall whatsoever. At least on Android you have a chance to get rid of everything.

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With the exception of Safari, you can uninstall every application using the standard process.

Can you do that for Android carrier crapware that’s preinstalled? Just tap on it and choose uninstall?

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I never buy phones from carriers, always directly from manufacturers, so no idea. Manufacturer bloat can be deleted pretty straightforward.

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iOS doesn’t come with any preinstalled Apple bloatware either. Oh, wait.

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It’s hardly intrusive, no pop ups or “hey I’m here” notifications. You can uninstall most of them in seconds without special tools.

Android crapware is much more deeper, it’s not stuff your grandma can uninstall.

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Android crapware is much more deeper, it’s not stuff your grandma can uninstall.

installs custom rom

not every person can-

Their problem.

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Can you uninstall Apple TV, Apple Music, Books, FaceTime, Fitness/Health, Podcasts, and News?

Can you disable Safari or the App Store?

Can you install non–Apple-sanctioned apps?

Which isn’t to say Android’s situation is great for various manufacturers, just weird to not include iOS.

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It’s hardly intrusive, no pop ups or “hey I’m here” notifications. You can uninstall most of them in seconds without special tools.

If that’s your definition of bloatware then this point:

Android crapware is much more deeper, it’s not stuff your grandma can uninstall.

Is pretty silly as Android has less apps built into the OS, and I can actually go into settings and disable them very easily. Specific phone carriers might add bullshit on top of that, but that’s not Android doing that

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Companies want to spy on you and make money, it’s no secret. Just install stock Android or your favorite fork; it quite literally takes 5 minutes with a WebUSB installer.

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Doesn’t’ the fork like Lineage OS or Graphene also need to support those phone models first?

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Yep, Graphene only runs on Pixels but (IIRC) Lineage runs on most mainstream devices. Otherwise stock Android should work fine.

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it quite literally takes 5 minutes with a WebUSB installer.

With a supported phone, on a Chromium browser on Windows. It takes much more than that usually, depending on device, to unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM

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I guess I only have one data point from installing Graphene on my phone. I can see why it would be harder on other devices. Though I was using Linux, and Windows is absolutely not required for WebUSB.

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Unlocking bootloader took me few hours.
I must register new account, install Windows application (Linux not supported, but Windows Server evaluation is free and works as a VM),
have valid SIM card with Internet access.

But worth it, much better experience.

Unfortunately, average person won’t do all this things.

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That sounds like Xiaomi. The best price to performance ratio of any OEM, but at the cost of terrible software and this… experience… when you want to get rid of it.

Worth noting that not all OEMs are like this.

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Yeah, bingo.

I hope there are no backdoors in a firmware or modem.

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…and then you’re locked out of using your phone to pay for things, can’t install banking apps and marginal ID apps, et cetera. 😢

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It’s a tradeoff for sure but it’s worth it for a lot of people.

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  1. do you really need to pay with your phone?
  2. do you need to use a banking app and not call the automated system to check?
  3. What ID apps would you used on a phone? Having digital ID’s is in it’s own a huge breach of privacy and i would never consent to such a system
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  1. do you really need to pay with your phone?

Yes and not for me. Having my dad’s card on my phone without having the physical card is not that bad

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Facebook, Netflix and Spotify are bloatware.

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IMO all google and manufacturer apps are too, they should be optional during install.

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15 points

'Cos capitalism.

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Amazing how this one word is able to justify so much abuse of the pedon class.

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Because people keep buying Xiaomi and Samsung shit that’s loaded with crap (at least over here, I understand this varies massively by region).

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Base Android is also loaded with crap, directly from Google. Android is the worst mobile operating system, with the exception of all the others.

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I guess we just have a simple task - to make sure that all android phones are running base android.
How do u propose that could be done?

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Legislation to allow installing arbitrary OS and firmware on all consumer devices.

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Base Android (AOSP) is not, what you probably mean is Google Android.

Look at GrapheneOS, that is a usable, privacy-focused Android without bloat.

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It works on pixels only, I don’t trust Google hardware

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Almost none of the devices are shipped with anything but Google’s Android, and manufacturers don’t provide you alternative versions of Android

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you can argue that iphones and pixel phones etc… have bloatware/spyware/malware as well.

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At least Samsung phones are only bloated with Samsung apps, which in most part you can uninstall or disable. Although it’s still fucking stupid that when you buy a new phone you need to do a lot of maintenance just to make your phone work as it should, and not slow down because of shitty apps.

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my samsung phone had tiktok on install

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Many budget phones get paid money to install other apps by default, this can be useful for you so you get more hardware for the money

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My Samsung tablet had a lot of non Samsung apps, some even duplicating Samsung ones.

I disabled no less than 10, there are other 10 I can’t

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I mind the Google crap more than I mind the Samsung stuff. At least Samsung’s browser supports ad blockers since ages. That Chrome POS is just useless.

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i buy samsung cause parts aka easier to source parts.

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fixing phones is the biggest scam ever. once you open the phone you are always going to have problems with the phone. they are not made to be opened and repaired.

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As much as I hate this saying, it sounds like a skill issue

I’ve done repairs on all my phones. New buttons, screens, batteries, ports, etc. I’ve never caused an unforeseen new issue by doing so.

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Depends on the model, and the manufacturers would certainly prefer you replaced it, but I’ve privately fixed a few phones for friends/family. Fucked up and broke the first one, but the ones after are pretty much all still running without issue.

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