8 points

You forgot the part where they pay the video creator 50% of the money and use the other 50% to run one of the most computationally expensive and complex services on the internet.

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I had three adverts slapped on one of my videos on my crummy 4 subscriber channel and I don’t get a single penny from it.

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It doesn’t make any cents.

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I don’t know about computationaly expensive. Once video is processed, it’s mostly just a fancy CDN.

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Wouldn’t serving video and bandwidth concerns count as complexity?

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I was sort of lumping storage and compute costs together as “compute” but compute itself is probably astronomical too.

Even if it was just a CDN, a cdn at that scale streaming that much content simultaneously would require a huge amount of compute just to handle the streaming request traffic.

There’s also the recommendation algorithm which is powered by ai and takes a shit ton of parameters, at that scale that would be a massive computational task in and of itself.

Even video processing they probably send it through a couple Ai pipelines to add subtitles, make sure it’s not porn, check if your discussing topics with high misinformation so it can put that Wikipedia link below the video, etc.

All that plus probably another million other little problems that comes with running a service at that scale.

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Yes, but also, running Youtube costs about 10x as much as both are paying.

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Only if you didn’t count the data scraping for advertisement part.

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6 points

Now that I don’t believe

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10x may be too much, but they’re definitely losing money with spending money on it. Lots.

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3 points

Any source? Last I heard Alphabet was making mad bank

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Now spending/ investing money I believe. But I bet you the hell that they are going to be using all of their YouTube data to train llms and probably sell that training data. At some point. There’s no way they won’t be making bank

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The bourgeoisie (parasites) pay the bourgeoisie (parasites) to make their service worse in an attempt to extract more capital from you. You give the bourgeoisie capital… to stop them from making their service worse in order to take your capital?

This is a lose lose for you and a win win for corpo scum. Use an Adblock, take to the seven seas, use platforms that are decentralized. Then it’s a win win for you and, added bonus, it’s typically parasite free.

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And in return, YouTube serves video and pays creators.

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pays creators

Not enough. Otherwise creators would not need to include their own ads which Premium users can’t hide.

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would not need to include

Yeah, I bet people like MKBHD are barely surviving without sponsors!

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Sure, get the big ones out as an example…

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11 points

It’s not possible to pay enough to overcome human greed.

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2 points

Not to money junkies it isn’t, but to people with a healthy senses of empathy it would be.

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Premium users can jump ahead to “the next part of the video most users fast forward to”, which are sponsored segments most of the time

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6308116?hl=en#zippy=%2Cwatch-videos-without-ads%2Cjump-ahead

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I know this feature and use it when I’m watching on the phone. But so far it’s not available on the Apple TV app.

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Lol Premium users pay for sponsorblock

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3 points

Even if it was enough, they would not leave money on the table.

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Which is still bullshit, Youtube Premium payers should not have to sit through that crap. Pirates with sponsor block have a better experience than paying suckers

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I’d pay YouTube if it were $5/month instead of $15.

In fact, a couple of my favorite YouTube creators are on nebula.tv and I pay them $30/year.

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I’d pay YouTube if it were $5/month instead of $15.

It’s less than 5/month on the family plan IF you have 4 other people you’d like to share with

The family plan is the only reason I pay for premium lol.

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Family plan is 5 or 6 google accounts for 22$ a month. That’s what I do

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They would lose money with every user if this was the case, UNLESS they stopped paying creators entirely

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4 points

I’d gladly pay €15 a month if they guaranteed not to track me on the internet.

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I wish Nebula had official support for third party clients.

What I really want is a more decentralized approach. Hosting video is expensive so it would be idea if it could be offloaded to smaller community devices instead of huge server farms.

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There’s Peertube but it’s a model that requires a lot more people to work well. I tried to watch a video but nobody was seeding. That was my first experience with it.

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Doesn’t Grayjay have Nebula support?

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No official support

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8 points

I pay $14CAD for Crunchyroll and I don’t even use it that much. I use hours and hours of Youtube content pretty much every day. I also had Nebula but need to get that sorted again now that they aren’t with Curiosity Stream.

People will pay for a lot of stuff but ask them to pay for Youtube and they will lose their damn minds.

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YouTube doesn’t even produce their own content. I’d rather get it somewhere else, if creators offer that option.

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Sure, but considering just how much they need to store and serve to viewers at the highest speed I kinda get it. Look if it was $20CAD a month I’d definitely reconsider, and if they start putting ads in anyway I’ll cancel because I’m not paying to still see that shit, but for now it’s fine.

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22 points

Nebula rules I always make a point to check there first. Great for treadmill shows and stuff

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4 points

Is a treadmill show just something you watch while you’re on the treadmill?

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honestly i’m not sure lol. I prefer shows I don’t have to pay too much attention to but i always end up watching real life lore/geopolitic/news videos and get really wrapped up in them. I’ll probably classify them as shows that i watch in my own and not with my fiance.

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