177 points

Speak only for yourself. In the meantime, I use uBlock.

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Inb4 they lock youtube behind DRMs with hardware authentication.

(Some apps don’t run on third-party OS like Graphene OS anymore, that could be the future of technology)

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85 points

If they make it too hard I’ll stop watching. I have no intention of watching their ads (ads are psychological abuse), and they charge way-yyy too much for premium.

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16 points

If they make it too hard I’ll stop watching.

Exactly. There is practically an infinite supply of entertainment with a wide variety these days. There are too many alternatives to care about any single source.

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5 points

Yeah, at some point it will become just like cable TV, which I don’t watch, so… There’s plenty of other stuff out there.

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14 points

Knowing what people are like, that won’t stop adblockers for long

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14 points

Use third party clients

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7 points

Grayjay ftw

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Speak only for yourself. I just don’t use YouTube. Like, at all. /s but not /s

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77 points

I’d pay YouTube if it were $5/month instead of $15.

In fact, a couple of my favorite YouTube creators are on nebula.tv and I pay them $30/year.

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22 points

Nebula rules I always make a point to check there first. Great for treadmill shows and stuff

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4 points

Is a treadmill show just something you watch while you’re on the treadmill?

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honestly i’m not sure lol. I prefer shows I don’t have to pay too much attention to but i always end up watching real life lore/geopolitic/news videos and get really wrapped up in them. I’ll probably classify them as shows that i watch in my own and not with my fiance.

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I’d pay YouTube if it were $5/month instead of $15.

It’s less than 5/month on the family plan IF you have 4 other people you’d like to share with

The family plan is the only reason I pay for premium lol.

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I pay $14CAD for Crunchyroll and I don’t even use it that much. I use hours and hours of Youtube content pretty much every day. I also had Nebula but need to get that sorted again now that they aren’t with Curiosity Stream.

People will pay for a lot of stuff but ask them to pay for Youtube and they will lose their damn minds.

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8 points

YouTube doesn’t even produce their own content. I’d rather get it somewhere else, if creators offer that option.

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Sure, but considering just how much they need to store and serve to viewers at the highest speed I kinda get it. Look if it was $20CAD a month I’d definitely reconsider, and if they start putting ads in anyway I’ll cancel because I’m not paying to still see that shit, but for now it’s fine.

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I wish Nebula had official support for third party clients.

What I really want is a more decentralized approach. Hosting video is expensive so it would be idea if it could be offloaded to smaller community devices instead of huge server farms.

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2 points

There’s Peertube but it’s a model that requires a lot more people to work well. I tried to watch a video but nobody was seeding. That was my first experience with it.

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Doesn’t Grayjay have Nebula support?

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1 point

No official support

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4 points

I’d gladly pay €15 a month if they guaranteed not to track me on the internet.

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They would lose money with every user if this was the case, UNLESS they stopped paying creators entirely

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Family plan is 5 or 6 google accounts for 22$ a month. That’s what I do

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64 points

It’s one or the other. If you pay YouTube for Premium and don’t get any ads, advertisers don’t pay for your ad impression.

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wish there was an option for “pay the platform the few cents the ads make” instead of me paying the platform a wild and ever increasing amount of money

Tbh I feel like they should take a ~30% cut from the creator tips feature and add that to a “ad balance” which would remove ads and subtract the few cents they would’ve got from the ad. That way YouTube gets paid, the consumer doesn’t get ads, and the creator gets encouraged to make good content.

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9 points

You keep imagining some way how YT could get cheaper for you.

But in fact, ads are highly profitable, and if you buy a premium there’s a very transparent revenue share model. 70% of your money goes directly to the creators.

All your wishes are already fulfilled, you’re just poor and are trying to justify not paying with imagined arguments.

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The thing that bothers me is the revenue doesnt go to creators that I watch. Its all pooled and divided out by view count across the entire platform. Which is bs. I dont want my money going to the top channels that i have zero interest in. A better system is dividing it out to the channels I view.

Thus why adblocking and patreon is highly popular…

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2 points

Most YouTube channels have a Patrion account, or something similar.

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10 points

My biggest gripe about Patreon is that I can’t just do a one time donation, it’s a subscription to donate money to people. Cool and all, but I’m not rich enough to just give some of my income to people, I’d rather do small donations whenever I can.

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7 points

most patreons are at least $5 so if you sub to more than 2, you might as well be paying for YouTube premium

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14 points

Finally a non-braindead comment.

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64 points

This can’t seriously be surprising for anybody, youtube with its on-demand unlimited video storage and streaming has to be one of the biggest money sinks on the internet.

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24 points

Its the most expensive service ever.

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5 points

I would link one but any searches for it just return “YouTube premium is getting more expensive”

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3 points

We all bought a free subscription to it for life with our data that they stole before we even had a sense of it being a problem.

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And this is why peertube will never actually take off outside of a Utopian future of unlimited energy and a future where everything is perfectly distributed

Who is going to pay the hosting costs? Who is going to pay the bandwidth costs? Let’s say magic happens and the users donate enough for that. Who is going to pay the creators who that is their main source of income?

Now what will happen when people demand 4k content everywhere, and then 8k after that? That quadruples the cost of the bandwidth and hosting costs.

I absolutely hate hate hate subscription models and hate ads. There has to be a subscription model for any video hosting platform, and YouTube doesn’t split up into exclusivity deals like shitty steaming services to screw over the consumer for profit. So at least there is that.

Decentralized systems work extremely well for text and even audio-based services. Video is a whole other beast, especially long form video at high resolutions.

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If a subscription makes sense anywhere it is for something like YouTube, totally agreed. According to YouTube stats 4.3 Petabytes of new data get uploaded every single day to the platform. That’s absolutely mindboggling.

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This kind of pisses me off whenever people complain about YouTube pushing ads or charging money. It’s absolutely insane how much storage and bandwidth the amount of video hosted and uploaded every second requires. How could it possibly free?!

Bundled with YouTube Music it’s even extremely good value.
Spotify premium costs USD15.36 in my country.
YouTube premium, including YouTube music USD19.58.
That’s USD4.23 for no ads where I watch the most videos. Absolute no brainer in my opinion.

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55 points

*and we block YouTube ads to not show ads

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