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Columbine kicked off an epidemic of school shootings because of the attention it got. Some people need a focus for their misery and I am not ashamed to say that I would rather see heartless corporate executives fear for their safety instead of school children gunned down as they hide in a closet. Just putting that out there.

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I am glad to know I’m not alone in this line of thinking!

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70 points

Hello lonely young men with something to prove, have you seen how much positive attention Luigi got

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19 points

well im lonely but i dont want to goto jail.

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31 points

So what you’re saying is if the collective can set Luigi free then you might be okay with the deal?

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5 points
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Just avoid eating inside restaurants for awhile.

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4 points

This convo is heavy sarcasm, no person should do something stupid based on shit read online.

But school shootings are bad thing to do though

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15 points

I’ve got very few long term prospects, very little empathy for the undeserving wealthy, and a whole lot of spare time.

Ladies, look out 😎

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4 points

Well yeah, don’t you remember game theory talking about how big his cock is?

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3 points

Luigi got attention for being arrested, the police are the ones alleging that he was the one who shot the CEO.

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70 points

It really would be a strange kind of uniquely American poetry if our school shooting problem inverted itself into a megacorp CEO shooting solution.

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59 points

If a few more CEOs gets off’d, they’ll ram gun control legislation through congress faster than Trump can wolf down a Big Mac.

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1 point

I think they said that Luigi had a ghost gun, partially 3D printed? Of course he didn’t make the bullets so maybe that’ll matter.

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23 points

Historically it’s been threats to the owner / controller class that have produced serious gun control legislation in the US, so you are probably right! But if you mean actual confiscation a la Australia, pretty sure that’s off the table here. Sincerely think it’d spark a war no matter who sincerely attempts it or why.

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15 points

The cat is out of the bag, no? 3d printing guns is a bit of a Pandoras box in regards to gun control. Especially in America where it has been legal for so long

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11 points

A papercut that draws blue blood is a bigger issue to these freaks than a river of poor corpses.

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4 points

Given that the guy used a (partially) 3D-printed gun, I just can’t fucking wait to see how the overbroad knee-jerk restrictions are going to impact the hobbyist maker space.

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3 points

Or they just make it easier for CEOs to get and carry guns.

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33 points

shit, i would say school shootings are endemic now.

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Only in America. Where there’s guns, there’s accidental death.

I say ban the guns so the vigilantes need to use cricket bats. Sell the surveillance tapes for PPV.

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12 points

Hey, those tapes are community property. Stop trying to commercialize justice.

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-2 points

Take it else where to do this circle jerk.

Stay on topic please. Brian was a prasite. Nothing to do with us fire arm laws.

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School shootings are very intentional, not accidental.

Banning guns isn’t going to make 500 million firearms disappear, it’ll just take them out of the hands of law-abiding citizens.

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14 points

Workplace shootings are nothing new. Where do you think the term Going Postal comes from?

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9 points

Damn I thought it was the hit game POSTAL 2

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6 points

Watch the Postal movie for a real wtf humor/horror experience. I enjoyed it, but it’s a sensitivity PR nightmare.

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5 points

I really hope Jo Miran is an alias.

Maybe of the Buckee’s beaver?

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2 points

In this regard, all the media attention might be a good thing. I haven’t seen this much coverage since that runaway bride horse shit 15 years ago.

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225 points

This is why you don’t snitch. The powers that be don’t care about you, have no intention to do right by you, and will actively look for ways to avoid you after they are done with you.

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55 points

What was it again, Deny, Delay, …

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39 points

Dispose?

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The original is delay, deny, defend.

The one that was on the cartridge casing when the CEO was terminated was, delay, deny, depose.

The act of deposing a person, by one definition is to “remove from office suddenly and forcefully”

IMO, that’s the meaning behind the use of “depose” here.

There’s also legal depositions which are a very different thing entirely. From what I’ve heard, Luigi had a lot of experience with delay and deny. I dunno how much of what I’ve heard is true, and how much is just a game of telephone gone wrong.

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16 points

always have been.jpeg

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5 points

I always wondered about WitSec. How long does the protection last? After trial, then what?

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…and all that came of the whole affair was a bunch of bad reviews for a McDonald’s, which were promptly deleted by the corporation controlling all data.

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No, there was a lot more that came of this (unless you’re specifically referencing the snitching part).

  • It’s made business execs afraid.
  • It’s shown the working class how to have solidarity.
  • It’s been a rallying cry for how much the people hare the current system.
  • It’s given us a martyr.
  • It’s taught the would be school shooters that they’ll get lots of positive attention for redirecting their targets towards those deserving. They’ll get labeled a folk hero, they’ll have people trying to send them money for their legal defense fund, they’ll get their name in the history books. They’ll get everything they ever wanted out of their act of violence.

And I’m sure there’s more.

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53 points

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22 points

I’m not a big Astarion fan, but I can see the appeal.

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or if you conceal your murder(s) with a thin veil of legality!

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-6 points

Interesting work of fiction.

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It’s taught the would be school shooters that they’ll get lots of positive attention for redirecting their targets towards those deserving. They’ll get labeled a folk hero, they’ll have people trying to send them money for their legal defense fund, they’ll get their name in the history books. They’ll get everything they ever wanted out of their act of violence.

I never even thought of that. No more Columbines? Just more Luigis?

Based universe!

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I wouldn’t go so far to say that there won’t be any more school shootings. A school shootings is comparatively easy. Their locations are static, publicly available. There are many potential victims, and so on.

With that said, some may opt for the slightly higher difficulty of biz execs for the reasons I’ve listed.

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9 points

It might even unify some voters across party lines

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I think that user above you was implying more should be done about the McDonalds, which is pretty ironic given the context.

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Is his martydom trending on “common” social media like TikTok, YT, Facebook, Discord, big podcasts and such?

Lemmy (and even Twitter and Reddit) are rather niche and not necessarily reaching the larger public, aka this pool of working class folk.

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It definitely seems to be yeah, given the number of reposted tiktoks I’ve seen, and the facebook unitedhealthgroup laughing emoji ratio, and all the videos that corporate media are clutching their pearls over. There are tons of comments in Ben Shapiro’s videos on the subject that are cheering on the death of a CEO, despite his attempt to paint this as only the “violent left”. When Ben Shapiro’s viewers disagree with him you know the feeling is widespread lol.

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I can’t speak for all of them, but I can explain the vibes:

  • TikTok/Insta - 100% worshipping Luigi en masse
  • Discord - None of the ones I’m in, though I mostly stick to small friend groups I know IRL. I’d be shocked if there aren’t servers praising him as a hero

I can’t speak to the rest.

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Maybe the “let me fuck shit up and shoot up my high-school” crowd doesn’t really care about being remembered as heroes but what would I know.

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37 points

I guess Advent Health dropped their proposed anesthesia policy out of the goodness of their heart?

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6 points

For now. However I’m sure they have plans in the works for all sorts of similar heinous and hateful policy changes.

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34 points

The parasites are scrapping their data online because they know plebs don’t know how to check SEC filings on https://www.sec.gov/search-filings

That could maybe contain names of the people running these death machines.

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Coincidentally, unrelated, happenstance fact - you can gain the ability to attend shareholder meetings by purchasing a certain amount of shares - each company sets their own level.

Y’know, exactly like the meeting Brian was on his way to that December morning.…

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ohh wow, look at that!

i guess they really do think peasants don’t know how to use common sense and online search, i am sure Securitas and G4S clowns charging a fat fee for this advise too. Classic capitalism strikes again.

does it actually make these parasites any safer?

no way to tell really…

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21 points

Well the employee was also fired and their life ruined, and it’s still early.

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Seriously? Why is that?

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Being fired? For being a distraction from the work that McDonald’s wants to occur without people associating it with class warfare.

Honestly it’s probably the manager reacting poorly and once it goes further up the ladder and there is more and more backlash they will turn back on these decisions same as the reward money if they are smart though I think the 10,000 is officially off the table since that was a private 3rd party and the 50,000 will likely be a fraction of that at best.

Any kind of change from norm gets blamed on whoever they think caused it. And it hits wide and usually the innocent just as much.

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I can’t find anything that mentions they were fired. Do you have a source for that? That would be super messed up.

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Well I have it from the statements of the woman herself and the somewhat open gossip now of central PA.

I could try to pull sources but I’m not sure what I could provide that would be considered respectable enough for this community.

I think she was just put on leave but if you are a part time worker on leave without pay it sure looks like being fired even if on a technicality they can say she wasn’t fired yet. I dunno she’s acting like she was fucked over and I believe it when she thought she would get a bunch of money and be a hero.

I don’t have sources that talk about people shitting on cars at the McDonald’s but that’s happening too.

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12 points

I’ve already heard a bunch of stories of insurance companies approving procedures they denied the day before.

This probably saved a bunch of lives.

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This thing about them not getting the promised reward needs to go viral so in the future whenever someone’s thinking of turning someone in to get the reward money, they’ll know they’re highly unlikely to get a damn thing.

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It’s gone viral on several meme pages I follow on Facebook…

Also if this employee doesn’t get rewarded for the tip-off that led to Luigi’s arrest, what kind of message is that going to send to the public about law enforcement? It’s just going to reinforce the already-growing ACAB narrative and make people distrust the police even further…

Heck, the very real possibility of being publicly outed, shamed, harassed and threatened for being the one to rat on Luigi, and not getting the promised $60,000 reward could end up radicalising more people.

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39 points

The average citizen doesn’t know, care, or even understand. Nor do they want to.

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That’s why everyone who cares needs to spread the word.

People don’t need to care. They might share it as a fun factoid, they might just say that’s crazy and never think about it again

Until they’re in a position to get a reward… They’ll care then. That little idea they heard in passing will pop up… Maybe it gives them pause.

$10k is pretty tempting for a lot of people…a chance at a $10k reward they’ve heard rarely is paid out is a lot less tempting

Maybe they Google it first, maybe they think twice about if the crime is worth reporting. Maybe they see the world in black and white and believe it to be their duty

It’s worth spreading some information, even to people that don’t care

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The average can shift marginally over time and this is a good start.

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It’s also (probably) not true.

“McDonald’s employee who called 911 in CEO’s shooting is eligible for a reward, but it will take time”

https://apnews.com/article/luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare-ceo-reward-money-tips-c17b08531049edb381b954e6b876cfda

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At this point, we don’t know if it’s true or how true. The odds of them getting the whole $60k is very low, but they might eventually get something out of it, depending on if/when he’s convicted, how much of it they decide to award, and how many other tipsters it would be split with. And then of course, after taxes are deducted!

Since the issue has gotten some publicity and people may be checking up on it, they’re probably more likely to give them at least something in this case. But whatever the truth is doesn’t matter much these days – the article stating they might not get it is out there, got attention, and I’m saying it should get more attention. People shouldn’t be fooled when they hear a number and believe they will actually just be handed all that money when they call in their tip.

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Here y’go: free fries with your purchase of a BigMac. Thanks for supporting law enforcement.

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I didn’t hear about this. Is there an article you can link or something?

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https://kpel965.com/mcdonalds-employee-may-not-get-60000-reward-for-tipping-off-police-about-luigi-mangione/

This one was posted further up. The tl;dr is that because they didn’t call the NYPD tip line, they definitely* won’t get the $10,000 from them, barring major backlash that may make them walk that back.

The $50,000 from the FBI is up in the air, but is dependent on him getting convicted. There’s some wording that someone else pointed to about the tip needing to lead to an arrest AND conviction, saying that because the tip itself only lead to the arrest, they won’t be paid, but I’m uncertain about that.

I mentioned in another comment that if the 1% want us to keep snitching, these high profile situations kinda need to pay out.

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Its pure conjecture, there is no one saying they wont be paid, just some “journalists” saying maybe he wont be paid.

Maybe this might be one of those cases where fuck the truth of the matter, we should just spread this conjecture as truth. Snitches should imagine stitches not riches.

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🎶 mama, I just killed a man 🎶

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Ma’am, ain’t nobody saw nothing

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Insurance doesn’t cover vision. I didn’t see a damn thing.

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