GiveSendGo stands firmly behind its decision to host content related to Mangione.
“We believe every person is entitled to due process in a court of law — not in the court of public opinion,” Alex Shipley, GiveSendGo’s communications director, said in a statement. “To be absolutely clear, we do not support or condone vigilante justice. However, people have a constitutional right to a strong legal defense, and access to that defense should not be reserved only for the wealthy or those who fit a particular narrative. Our role is to give individuals and their communities the opportunity to fundraise for that defense, because true justice is served when everyone has equal access to a fair trial — regardless of the verdict.”
Classic case of lemmy liberals moving the goalpost. “They’re only doing good when they’re helping further my agenda” gtfoh with that stuff
Someone who knows enough about language to be a commissioned grammar cop should also know that “Liberals” ≠ the Left.
Liberals aren’t the ones decrying th hypocrisy of bad actors. That’s the Left.
An example of typical liberals is the .world admins and mods making it forbidden to discuss jury nullification and removing factual and relevant criticism of Dem leadership, labeling it “misinformation”.
First of all, grammar police ≠ political scientist. Secondly, you probably meant “…decrying the hypocrisy of ‘good faith actors’…”, and quite frankly I don’t care who’s doing the decrying. It’s shifting the goalpost to fit one’s agenda, and if i had to extend that argument to “The Left”, i would.
Furthermore, removal of discussions on jury nullification does not signify the actualisation of any political agenda (jury nullification is a democratic process in and of itself, so it would not serve the mods well if they WERE indeed furthering an agenda). The actions of the mods can simply be viewed as damage control if not anything else.
As a leftist I agree.
Although I don’t agree with them fund raising for Rittenhouse, I respect their decision and I wouldn’t want them to fund for Luigi but not someone I don’t agree with. That’s a double standard that we call out the right for and I think we should practice what we preach.
Exactly the point succinctly put. You either accept fundraising for all types of criminals or reject it. There’s no in between. It is on the donor to determine whether they would donate or not.
So you don’t think he deserves the same quality of defense as Kyle Rittenhouse?
You choose how much to pay them from a list. The lowest is $3. So, that’s the “chunk” it’s added on to the donation amount. The only thing the fundraiser loses is whatever the transaction fees are. Which is probably like 3% plus ~$0.25 each
I don’t really care. People should be allowed to crowdfund for legal defense fees. Taking away that ability would only further hurt poor people and enable the wealthy.
Because a large amount of people have convinced themselves that he’s a working class hero, when realistically he was well on track to become exactly the sort of corpo techbro they despise.
I’m not sure what bias you think I have here. He’s got a rather extensive and public social media presence, much of which has been backed up and preserved and is accessible for anybody interested to review. His personal interests, Ivy League education, past experiences, are all very well known at this point. Not to mention his family’s significant wealth; his uncle owns a country club and he was set to receive a $100M inheritance from his grandmother.
It’s really hard to see him as anything other than a typical, affluent New England yuppie who lost his marbles.
I don’t care if he’s an extraterrestrial or a gerbil, eating the rich is awesome.
Maybe he was on track for that or maybe he would have taken a different path, we don’t actually know. But it doesn’t matter because what did happen is he became radicalized against corporations (or at least corporate healthcare) and took action. What he did and what he believes now are far more important than who else he could have become.
It’s unclear so far, how much he specifically has.
His family however, is quite wealthy.
I’ve been waiting for which kind of angle they will take to attack Luigi’s character to get people to change their mind about him.
It appears that they are going with the “but he was rich” strategy in hopes that would somehow turn people against him. Comment sections will probably be flooded with this shit.
Yeah. Hell, even if he IS extremely rich and privileged, that just makes him the GOOD kind of class traitor: the kind with enough privilege to not HAVE to care, but also enough empathy and desire for justice to care anyway.
100 million from his grandmother, but devided between multiple family members
https://www.the-sun.com/news/13081111/ceo-assassin-luigi-mangione-powerful-family-wealth/
His family is actually very rich but I’d still donate as a statement (if it wasn’t on GiveSendGo)
If I was Aaron Schwartz’d, I’m certain my family would read the headlines on Fox News and be immediately convinced that I am somehow a bad person and deserve to be in prison as punishment
Just because your parents have lots of money, doesn’t mean it will go to your defense fund.
Because when people see how much he can fundraise, they might be more willing to do it themselves.
I’m investigating some new lighting for my home. I just want to be sure I install it correctly. I don’t want to burn my house down by improperly wiring. I’m also seeing how other people have installed new lights, so I can learn from their successes and mistakes. It’s all very new to me. I didn’t grow up in a house of electricians. But I do know it’s important to measure twice and cut once… so to speak.
Previously, when the chance that most of those fundraiser listings were made by scammers, I wasn’t too concerned with them being removed.
Now that he has a lawyer, surely there’ll be an official listing that will remain. /s
Well fuck you GoFundMe.
“To be absolutely clear, ***^we are legally required to say that *** we do not support or condone vigilante justice.”
FTFY
Also fuck you GiveSendGo, even if in this case they’re being kind of cool. Their normal clientele are neo nazis and alt right Conservatives [wikipedia]
Was just going to say that often, the “Free Speech” platforms tend to be geared to being able to freely hate on people.
I hope givesendgo has increased their security since the last time i heard any mention of them…
During the covid convoy in Canada.
I still have that donor list CSV file around here somewhere.
