Will Manidis is the CEO of AI-driven healthcare startup ScienceIO

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Oh boy, identity mechanics to curb out the last vestiges of privacy.

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36 points

They’re pretty much declaring a war on VPNs also

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15 points

Yep. More than half the time I can’t access Reddit through Proton VPN.

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5 points

I dunno, part of me is ok with it. It’s clear to me how bad things are going to get. So having certain platforms or spaces with some level of public identity validation seems like it might be ok…

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Especially when it’s about gathering real information. When everything you read is written by an anonymous author, you’d have no chance to know whether it’s true or wrong, except if it’s a paper on theoretical maths of course.

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6 points

Well, it’s a great method to find people to target for political speech.

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26 points

Also doesn’t fix the problem at all, I can still just use AI to post to my main account

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7 points

you could try to cook up some kind of trust chain, without totally abandoning privacy.

Get a government-certified agencies minting master key tied to your id. You only get one, with trust rating tied to it.

With that master key you can generate infinite amount of sub-ids that dont identify you but show your trust rating(fuzzed).

Have a cross-network reporting system that can lower that rating for abuses like botting.

idk Im just spitballing

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1 point

What’s stopping me from using my key to post ai slop?

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3 points

The slop will be caught, your rating lowered until all your messages are simply filtered out as spam.

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Yeah, a real problem solver would probably be to remove the incentive for someone to do this.

It would probably be far less likely for someone to do that on lemmy, as there is no karma and you dont get paid for upvotes or something. (Still there are incentives, like creating credibility, celebrity accounts, maybe influence public opinion, self-pleasure from seeing upvotes to “your” posts/comments etc., but they arent such potent incetives as directly monetary incetives.)

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I wonder where people in the future will get their information from. What trustworthy sources of information are there? If the internet is overrun with bots, then you can’t really trust anything you read there, as it could all be propaganda. What else to do, though, to get your news?

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6 points

That’s the killer app right there: the complete inability for the common person to distinguish between true and false. That’s what they’re going for.

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5 points

let me scan your eyeballs. it’s the only way

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16 points

Is reddit still feeding Googles LLM or was it just a one time thing? Meaning will the newest LLM generated posts feed LLMs to generate posts?

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The truly valuable data is the stuff that was created prior to LLMs, anything after this is tainted by slop. Any verifiable human data would be worth more, which is why they are simultaneously trying to erode any and all privacy

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I’m not sure about that. It implies that only humans are able to produce high-quality output. But that seems wrong to me.

  • First of all, not everything that humans produce has high quality; rather, the opposite.
  • Second, with the development of AI i think it will be very well possible for AI to generate good-quality output in the future.
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Microsoft’s PHI-4 is primarily trained on synthetic (generated by other AIs) data. It’s not a future thing, it’s been happening for years

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These days the LLMs feed the LLMs so you can model models unless you’re excluding any public data from the last decade. You have to assume all public data based on users is tainted when used for training.

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5 points

Why not? r/AmlTheAsshole is about entertainment, not truth. It would be an indictment of AI if it couldn’t replicate a short, funny story.

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If your statement was true, then it should be disclosed in a visible manner, which it isn’t.

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(Already said this before, but let me reiterate:)

Typical AITA post:

Title: AITAH for calling out my [Friend/Husband/Wife/Mom/Dad/Son/Daughter/X-In-Law] after [He/She] did [Undeniably something outrageous that anyone with an IQ above 80 should know its unacceptable to do]?

Body of post:

[5-15 paragraph infodumping that no sane person would read]

I told my friend this and they said I’m an asshole. AITAH?

Comments:

Comment 1: NTA, you are abosolutely right, you should [Divorce/Go No-Contact/Disown/Unfriend, the person] IMMEDIATELY. Don’t walk away, RUNNN!!!

Comment 2: NTA, call the police! That’s totally unacceptable!

And sometimes you get someone calling out OP… 3: Wait, didn’t OP also claim to be [Totally different age and gender and race] a few months ago? Heres the post: [Link]


🙄 C’mon, who even think any of this is real…

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5 points

ESH

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Way too many…

I was born before the Internet. The Internet is always lumped into the “entertainment” part of my brain. A lot of people that have grown up knowing only the Internet think the Internet is much more “real”. It’s a problem.

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I’ve come up with a system to categorize reality in different ways:

Category 1: Thoughts inside my brain formed by logics

Category 2: Things I can directly observe via vision, hearing, or other direct sensory input

Category 3: IRL Other people’s words, stories, anecdotes, in face to face conversations

Category 4: Acredited News Media, Television, Newspaper, Radio (Including Amateur Radio Conversations), Telegrams, etc…

Category 5: The General Internet

The higher the category number, means the more distant that information is, and therefore more suspicious I am.

I mean like, if a user on Reddit (or any internet fourm or social media for that matter) told me X is a valid treatment for X disease without like real evidence, I’m gonna laugh in their face (well not their face, since its a forum, but you get the idea).

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2 points

I would recommend switching categories one and two. Sometimes our thoughts are fucked.

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7 points

I genuinely miss the 90s. I mean, yeah, early forms of internet and computers existed, but not everyone had a camera, and not everyone got absolutely bukkaked with disinformation. Not that I think everything is bad about the tech in of itself, but how we use it nowadays is just so exhausting.

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26 points

Needs to feature both a wedding and a pregnancy and you’ve nailed it

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14 points

insert plot from an episode of Friends

AITAH?

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5 points

I feel like we’re collectively writing the custom instructions for this bot.

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7 points

I asked my friend to help move a couch into my apartment but he got it stuck in the stairwell. AITAH?

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Look at that, the detection heuristics all laid out nice and neatly. The only issue is that Reddit doesn’t want to detect bots because they are likely using them. Reddit at one point was using a form of bot protection but it wasn’t for posts; instead, it was for ad fraud.

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9 points

If it’s well-written enough to be entertaining, it doesn’t even matter whether it’s real or not. Something like it almost certainly happened to someone at some point.

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Man, sometimes when I finish grabbing something I needed from Reddit, I hit the frontpage (always logged out) just out of morbid curiosity.
Every single time that r/AmIOverreacting sub is there with the most obvious “no, you’re not” situation ever.

I never once seen that sub show up before the exodus. AI or not, I refuse to believe any frontpage posts from that sub are anything other than made up bullshit.

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4 points

Typical AITA post:

“I want to do what I want with my own life. AITA?”

Everybody Sucks Here

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I’m thinking of pulling the plug on Reddit (at least for a while). My tipping point has become how the “drone” story is becoming popular. At first it was intriguing and mysterious (the airport shutdowns and reports of large vehicles at low levels was fascinating), but I’m getting the vibe it’s a misinformation campaign to distract the US from how we are about to be changed.

I was actually permabanned in the “News” sub for an innocuous comment. All it was is that I noted the federal authorities are likely correct for saying most of the reports of “UFOs” are likely airplanes and manmade drones, and to play devil’s advocate I mentioned there were likely legitimate reports of UAPs, but since the majority were probably mistaken planes the Federal agencies’ reactions were technically truthful.

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43 points

Dead internet theory

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At least I know to blame Claude.

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2 points

Claude classique

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3 points

There are at least 37 of us. Unless a bot posted this…

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At least one of you is real.

The other guy is me.

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