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How can a business/company grow and develop if it doesnt make net profit?

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yeah, anything above a certain percent I can see as theft from working class, but profit is expected to some degree. that alone doesn’t paint a full picture at all.

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Exactly. What really bugs me about lefty/antiwork sentiment lately is that it increasingly seems to be built upon and pushing fundamentally flawed black/white style concepts with unrealistic demands that don’t understand the nuances of the world we live in.

This is antithetical to progress, it alienates many supporters and breeds politically useless extremism.

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lol we’re getting downvoted

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“lately”? This is foundational to the entirety of left wing thought.

The left starts at abolition of capitalism and by extension corporate profit. If you disagree with that, you’re simply not left wing in any way, you would be better off in right wing or far right sites like reddit or Facebook. They’re their product of your beliefs, stick to them.

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Easy. By definition, if the money is going back into the business it isn’t profit. It’s overhead.

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Tell me you don’t understand basic business principles without telling me you don’t understand

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Sounds to me like your trying to operate on only basic principles and not understanding the more nuanced and complicated language

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Then where does profit go?

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Into the pockets of the owners/investors

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No, it’s still profit. It’s profit that’s reinvested into growing the business. Profit is revenue - operating costs. Scaling is not an operating cost, it’s an investment.

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By making a profit and not increasing it by underpaying employees.

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No, profits are the difference between what a person is willing to accept to do a job, and what someone is willing to pay for their production less the cost to make it.

Profit isn’t theft. If you want the full value of your work produce the good or service yourself. If you can’t, pay someone to do the things you can’t. Oh look, business.

Are certain players taking a ridiculous profit- yes. Are people suffering because of it - yes. Could it be done better - absolutely. But just because you don’t like something it doesn’t make it theft.

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In other words Exploitation, Thanks for clarifying in a round-about way that Capitalism = Exploitation

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What job do you have?

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What job do you have?

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Just because you don’t like when the word theft means capitalism is bad doesn’t mean capitalism is actually good

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Never said capitalism is good.

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Can an “Adjuster” please adjust peoples wages by visiting certain corporate executives? Just have a “peaceful little chat” with them 😉.

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Give them a little “year-end review” 🙊

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No prior authorization for thoughts and prayers, however.

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Out of my sympathy network.

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If your company can’t promise more profit than a bank account makes interest, you won’t get invested in and can’t buy the means of production.

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I work in a school. I often remember there are ALOT more students than staff. They cant ALL be on dentention at once… Wish i could tell the students that, but i also like my job and want to keep it.

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