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People like that need to be taken out on the spot. No prison. Just look at that face. Remorseless. End that creature before it does more harm.

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Wait! You can see the evil in her eyes?

Where did you learn to do that?

I dont mean to be shitty. This woman has been found guilty of something absolutely heinous and deplorable, and she could easily be described as evil knowing that.

But you are saying that if you saw that picture out of context, that you could see evil in her eyes?

What if the headline was, woman falls in lake trying to film ducks. Would you be able to see the stupid in her eyes? Or would her fave still look evil?

I’ve seen streamers that play a game where you are given multiple mug shots, and you have to identify the criminal vs. the non criminal, and it’s amazing how often they/everyone in chat gets it wrong.

Sorry to paragraph vomit on you here, but i just hate when i see people say this in these situations. It’s just not true and a silly thing to say.

Downvote me if you want. I dont care. I just needed to vent.

Sorry.

Edit: agreed, making abortion illegal was absolutely bonkers.

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I agree with you, it’s impossible and stupid to say you can see evil in her eyes.

What you can see it’s she being retarded, with severe mental health issues that were never addressed because yeah American health care industry.

And also because her name, sharday!? Her mom was probably illiterate and homeschooled her.

Just some theories.

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I think seeing the evil in someone’s eyes can be more attributed to knowing they’ve done something evil like this. The original commenter may not have been saying it literally, more-so after they find out the actions the person has taken. Not everything is so literal. Idk though, I’m not OP.

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This is in Oregon where abortion is perfectly legal.

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Oh damn

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Yeah, but is it legal after the 63rd trimester?

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Any dad who did the same crime would have gotten a way, way worse punishment.

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The phrasing of this could be interpreted to sound like your problem isn’t that the woman’s punishment was too lenient, just that a theoretical guy would have experienced an actual consequence.

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Wtf is wrong with you?

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This will continue happening if the jail sentence is only 30 days…

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The jail sentence has nothing to do with this happening.

This will keep happening while people are forced to bear kids they don’t want in financial situations, where nothing can be afforded and everything is shit.

The mother was torturing her child because she needed to vent and her kid seemed like the root of all her problems, not because there were only 30 days of jail sentence.

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Holy shit please tell me you don’t have kids.

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I have kids and wouldn’t harm them even if there was no jail sentence and I would gain money from it. What is your point?

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Oh, I didn’t realize that poor financial situations excuse people from waterboarding babies

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Did I write that somewhere? No.

Did I mean it? No.

Okay, but do you think, that maybe her life was so shitty, that she didn’t even care for her kid and that this is maybe even a systemic problem and she has no way of solving that herself?

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Do you have evidence this woman was forced to bear this child? I didn’t read that in the article. And since you provided your opinion of why the mother did this to the child, I know for a fact you didn’t read the article.

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Do you have evidence this woman was forced to bear this child?

I do not, but I also rather meant my text as generalization for parents harming their children this much.

Okay, let’s look into the article to see if a jail sentence would help.

Authorities said while the officer was taking McDonald to jail, she said that her actions were done as a test to see if the child’s father “gave a f–k at all,” adding she waterboarded her baby to try and make Neal come back to the apartment.

She allegedly admitted her actions were done “out of spite.”

I would argue, this crime has nothing to do with the sentence and everything to do with the circumstances I and others have mentioned.

And maybe she didn’t want to abort, but also maybe she would have chosen to, if it were more accepted and education in that matter was better.

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She said she actually did it to spite the father…

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Yes, I wrote this somewhere else, but my point still stands. The kid seemed as the root of all her problems and the jail sentence did never occur to her.

This is not an excuse (as some people said) it is still a horrible thing to do. I just want to make people aware, that these thing point to systemic problems and not necessarily evil people.

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And with poor access to mental health support.

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Every time there’s a mass shooting, Republicans say, “guns aren’t the problem, mental health is” and then they want to do absolutely nothing about it.

The only conclusion you can make is that they like mentally ill people who torture and murder.

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Jail sentences were never detracting anyone from crimes. Crimes are either planned so the criminal does not think they will be caught or done out of emotion so the criminal does not think about possible punishment

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If she’s in jail she can’t waterboard her kid and put it in the freezer again… Do you motherfuckers even think about what you’re saying before you spout off with these tired arguments?

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Same if they take away her kid.

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Until October 6, when she gets out of jail.

Unfortunately the foster system is also fucked.

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The severity of the punishment is not an effective deterrent. This has been known since a UN study from the 1980s, yet people still cling to the belief that a long prison sentence or the death penalty is a good deterrent.

So long as the punishment is significant enough that it cannot be dismissed (eg a small fine is meaningless to someone wealthy), then the only effective deterrent is the certainty of being caught.

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Could you share a link to that study?

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