cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1085036
I personally feel as if its like polluting the fediverse!
Hey @zuck@threads.com , you should really flag your account as a bot, thanks!
Moved to Fediverse to get away from the data hoarding and selling that those types of companies partake in. Really hope most instances will defederate from threads and prevent Meta from collecting more data.
The only thing they can collect (as long as you aren’t on their services) are the things that are available for the entire world to see. So your comments, usernames etc. are already visible and they won’t get any of your personal data as that’s not known except to your instances admins.
I’m interested in seeing how the enshittification of Threads will unfold. It’s all super neat and cozy right now with a clean UI, no ads, not many sign up nags, and such. When they build up their userbase, we’ll see how the platform devolves.
This article sums up what has happened a few times already: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
This isn’t any different.
I said in a different thread but: It’s a good, and very scary, reading but I would argue that it does not directly translate here because Lemmy / Kbin and Reddit are not social media per se, they are content focused instead of being person focus. Here no one cares who you are, we are all here for content. The XMPP EEE succeeded because once defederated people were not able to talk to their friends, defederating Threads would cut us off from strangers and their content, it’s not a big deal.
We’ll see what happens, hopefully the Fediverse will not be another free social media attempt killed by greedy corporates.
Arbitrarily blocking an actor at the protocol level is directly contrary to the entire point of decentralized protocols in the first place.
I know, Meta bad, but the fact of the matter is that they probably won’t be defederated by everyone, actually, because the idea of being able interact with your real friends and family and other people you know is going to be enticing.
They should put a hard-coded Meta blocker into activityhub
That will never happen
Not really, censorship isn’t the solution.
Edit: I just woke up when I wrote the original comment and I can see that it’s not the clearest piece of text I’ve ever produced. What I meant is that I fully agree with defederating (and I’ll do it on my instance), but I don’t think censoring Meta in the core technology (ActivityPub) is the way to go.
It literally is, do you not see the power dynamics here? If the fediverse is to defend itself it must at all cost not federate with Meta or we will end up like XMPP.
I agree with that.
I disagree with this part:
They should put a hard-coded Meta blocker into activityhub
Though I can see that my comment might seem very misleading (in my defense, I just woke up when I wrote it).
Meta doesn’t need Lemmy/Kbin/Mastodon. They are competing with Twitter. Threads will probably have more users than the whole fediverse combined within the first few days.
I just started the use the fediverse to get away from Meta (I have a somewhat active Instagram) and Reddit.
Now unfortunately my userbase is going to threads without knowing what it even is. I’m trying to spread awareness about the fediverse but it’s like yelling into the void. I signed up for threads and will continue to try to post content about the fediverse, but I also have to have an audience to share my art to as I’m trying to build some interest for a game I’m making.
This really sucks. I feel extremely upset about this whole meta thing. I could continue to try to build from scratch, but I am hoping to release the game next year and I already have 3 years head start on Instagram, it feels bad to also just abandon what I’ve worked hard on.
I dunno, I’m just venting. I hate Meta. I don’t even have a actual Facebook account. Hell I didn’t know Facebook owned Instagram until a year in.
I’ll just try to continue to stay active on my fediverse accounts. And try to promote the fediverse on the centralized BS networks.
Hey man don’t overthink it. You need a meta product for work or for a project, just use it professionally. You need to think about your own success and go where your audience is.
Now on your personal time if you don’t want the toxicity of those places come to the fediverse and let’s have a nice chat.
I think the goal of the fediverse is not to eat the world but on the contrary to give us alternatives so we can compartmentalize our internet life.
Thank you so much, seeing the whole threads thing ruined my day yesterday night and this morning. I felt like a sense of hopelessness for the future of decentralized platforms.
You’re right, I can continue to use both for different purposes.
Thank you so much. Seriously!
