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Why is this an improvement over the software management tool in Yast?

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You don’t need to install the rest of Yast. The package manager as the biggest, most complicated part of Yast, that also needed special UI not needed for other parts of Yast is kind of an oddity in terms of development as well, iirc.

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So, it’s especially useful when you run your system from a floppy.

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It has a single dependency (for pkg management) and is entirely separate from YaST. So you won’t need to have YaST working to have a GUI way to manage packages.

They talk about it being a “glimpse of the future” in the release info, so it may suggest a change in approach to how OpenSuSE is configured. Maybe a more modular or streamlined approach to YaST instead of an all-in-one Swiss army knife?

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That’s not a very appealing name for a tool, IMHO.

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I’m sure there’s a relevant XKCD, but I’m too lazy to link it.

Another package manager? Really? Why?

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Not a package manager. Just a front end for zypper.

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Well, more precisely a frontend for libzypp. Zypper is itself a frontend for libzypp.

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Absolutely awful name

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Did they intentionally choose a name that’s difficult to type? Assuming the command is yqpkg I’d want to murder whoever picked the name while trying to use it.

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Wow I didn’t even think about the ease of typing that but…yeah lol

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Right? And there’s always aliasing but I’m not going to write aliases for every single Docker container and VPS I have (assuming I’d be using the distro).

I use Alpine Linux, FreeBSD and OpenWRT a lot so I’m always mixing up apk, pkg and opkg.

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Jesus, they use Zypper instead of as opposed to APT, now this. Do they have some kind of a traditional ritual of getting high before naming these things?

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Apparently, the name was just the obvious technical name, since they started this during a hackathon where they didn’t want to spend time on naming. And supposedly, they’re also still looking for name suggestions, but yeah, I do find it slightly weird to publicly announce the name, if they are still planning to change it…

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Meh… I find it refreshing that they set aside formality. It’s part of what makes the Linux world a little different in a good way. Unlike the big corporate world with lots of Capital letters and ™ legal © symbols everywhere.

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Honestly, I do, too, but found it difficult to articulate. We expect them to come up with a good branding, because it’s a corporation. If this were a random person just throwing something out there as open-source, we’d welcome them no matter how odd the name might be. Heck, I might even appreciate that they’ve chosen a clearly non-marketable name, because it clearly shows that they have no interest in making money off of it.

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zypper predates apt (which isn’t the same as apt-get)

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Well yeah but my point was really just that it’s a goofy name. Not instead of, more like as opposed to.

P.S. interesting factoid that I didn’t know. Thanks. But with regard to your caveat: did you mean that apt-get predates zypper? Because that’s sufficient.

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But with regard to your caveat: did you mean that apt-get predates zypper?

No, apt-get is the oldest. It was one utility out of a set of utilities. I always found it super dumb that you hat to use a completely different tool to search for a package (apt-cache, I think).

zypper was released in 2006.

The all in one apt command was introduced by Debian 8 in 2015.

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