Mod Visigoth_860@lemmy.cafe posted a really creepy and pro-pedophilia post at https://lemmy.cafe/post/11105990
Mod immediately bans the two people that call it out as trolls.
Update: post is locked after two more bans
Looks like that community is his own personal soapbox for telling everyone that he wants to fuck 14 year olds. Consider reporting it to the admins of the instance.
Good riddance!
Edit: in case you missed it and was curious what it was… it was about 6 or 7 posts all from that same guy over the span of about a year, all of which were long winded rants complaining about “ageism” and concluding that the age of consent should be lowered to 14.
The post was deleted, but I was able to access it exploiting the fact that the deletion didn’t federate with another instance. Should I repost it here? Serious question, it’s yucky but without the content of the post it’s really hard to say something about it.
EDIT: archive link to the post. Discretion is advised.
Anyway. I’ll focus on the claims made by the user, instead of assuming if he is or isn’t a paedophile.
What people like that mod, or Richard Stallman, don’t get, is:
- consent is impaired if one person has power over another
- the age gap gives you power
Beyond that all that talk about desire is a big red herring because attraction is shit inside your head, what matters is what you do.
I won’t comment about remocrats vs. depublicans because I don’t care about USA internal politics.
I’ve archived it. I think that it’s important for transparency.
Sadly I couldn’t find the content of the comments of the two banned users. That modlog calling everyone “troll” strongly hints PTB, though.
Yeah. His opinions about software freedom are fairly solid, but when it comes to children and sexuality, he’d do everyone a favour if he simply shut up.
In his defence, though, I don’t think that he’s a paedophile; I think that he’s just trying to extend his views about individual freedom into sexuality, but he’s too socially clueless to get it right. And then the whole thing blew out of proportion because of both witch hunters and people exploiting it for political opposition.
Dude the mental gymnastics this guy tried to put you through to try and justify trying to make leftists okay with him wanting to fuck 15 year olds is insane. And you can tell he thinks he’s WAY smarter than he actually is.
Yup. The whole thing is a fallacious slop: fallacy of the beard, straw man, begging the question, so goes on. And as a result, he’s defending something that is morally insane.
Those two are not the same:
- a 20yo has sex with a 17yo; no payment is involved
- a 42yo has sex with a 17yo; the 17yo is an escort
and yet he’s trying to make both look like the same.
Age gap sex isn’t harmful
Uhh OK mayyybe?
Chris Hansen damaged society
HELLO FBI? THIS GUY RIGHT HERE.
Chris Hansen damaged society
There’s a sincere argument that turning “Pedo Hunting” into a consumer spectacle has done nothing to deter the act of child sex trafficking and exploitation, but been fantastic for the NextDoor community of busybodies and concern-trolls. The #MeToo movement has flatlined. I don’t see any real efforts to provide financial aid or social assistance to kids targeted for sex work. But lots of local news sites seem obsessed with elevating allegations of sex between kids to the front pages.
Reminds me of the Satanic Panic of the 1980s, wherein 12,000 unsubstantiated cases of Satanic ritual abuse were reported and investigated by prosecutors leaning into the national media trend and looking to make headlines. Right now, we’ve got a flood of Trans-Panic and Gay-Panic news articles that try and conflate kids going through hormone therapy with psycho-leftist parents doing mass grooming.
Doesn’t look like this guy gives a shit about LGBTQ civil rights. But those that do are chronically aware of how simply being queer can get you tossed in the same category as creeps and predators.
Sexuality in general isn’t a good topic for public debate, as it is highly personal, highly nuanced, and few people even want to touch the nastier issues related to it, because it gets BAD. When nobody is getting hurt, it’s nobody else’s business, but when people are getting hurt, just knowing about it can damage people’s mental health. At the risk of getting banned, I’ll point out a few of the things that nobody wants to discuss, for good reason.
NSFL
Killing/eating people is an actual fetish
Children who are raped often develop similar sexual desires as their rapists, be it age and/or orientation
Corruption/deceit is an actual fetish
I’m tapping out here instead of wracking my brain for more, because I’m already making myself sick remembering things I’ve seen.
Seriously though, I’m personally quite upset with the vast quantity of pornography available online, because I feel strongly that exposing children to such sexual material (don’t pretend it’s reasonable for anyone to be able to keep them away from it) has a serious negative impact upon their development, speaking as someone who was once a child on the Internet.
Sexuality in general isn’t a good topic for public debate
The topic typically revolves around the idea of “public safety”. But public safety in the American context appears to be fixated on state surveillance and the prosecution of religious taboos. The end result is a country where things that are taboo (namely publicly facing queer sexuality) get pursued aggressively while things that aren’t taboo (older richer whiter men taking advantage of their younger and more vulnerable peers in cloistered settings) get swept under the rug. And the end game is the local news running mugshots of the poorest, saddest, ugliest fucks on the planet for soliciting publicly, while the owners of the parent media companies do Epstein tier shit in the executive lounge of a remote island high rise.
Sexuality and its criminality mirrors the expression of the social power dynamic. You didn’t see Chris Hansen catching anyone in $10,000 business suit on his show.
Sex with minors? With an age gap bigger than like 2 years, no. But close in age is fine, like 17 and 18.
20 year olds want 15 year olds
Uh…
Matt Gaetz
Oh. Oh no.
Holy shit this person seriously is a fucked up individual.
Does lemmy.cafe have any infrastructure for removing dangerous people from their instances?
Can I apply that logic to other hot button issues related to children making decisions about sexuality and their bodies, or would that get me banned?
Yes this dude is fucked up, but a whole lot of you are wild hypocrites who ignore the victimization of children when it’s related to your own pet issues.
Can I apply that logic to other hot button issues related to children making decisions about sexuality and their bodies, or would that get me banned?
Are the issues of children making decisions in the room with you?
Are you planning to find a ragebait website with a history of misinformation and clear bias about one incident that you’ve now use as a blanket statement of your entire worldview?
Cute, but not at all what I’m doing. I agree fully with you that this dude is fucked in the head. I’m just sick of seeing other sick behaviour getting a pass. I want to see people keep their own personal ideas about sexuality the fuck away from children.
Fuck me right?
Are you comparing trans kids receiving gender affirming care to being able to have sex with adults? Because it certainly sounds like that’s what you are insinuating here. If so that is an incredibly transphobic bad faith comparison.
What do you guys think? Personally the language used here lines up pretty well with the dogwhistles most TERFs use to attack gender affirming care like puberty blockers but I’d love to hear what you have to think.
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