Mod Visigoth_860@lemmy.cafe posted a really creepy and pro-pedophilia post at https://lemmy.cafe/post/11105990
Mod immediately bans the two people that call it out as trolls.
Update: post is locked after two more bans
A paedophile is a person who’s sexually attracted to children before they hit puberty, so they lose interest in them around 10 or 11 years old. That weird (ex-)mod and all of you in here are talking about Ephebophilia, the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19.
(I’m not arguing in favor of any of this!)
in the modern vernacular, it’s all pedophilia under a certain age… most scientific terms in common usage are used differently that the original definition…
basically nobody but ephebophiles are going to care about the distinction…
(also it’s the under 18 that’s the problem, so that term doesn’t really cover the meaning)
Age gap sex isn’t harmful
Uhh OK mayyybe?
Chris Hansen damaged society
HELLO FBI? THIS GUY RIGHT HERE.
Chris Hansen damaged society
There’s a sincere argument that turning “Pedo Hunting” into a consumer spectacle has done nothing to deter the act of child sex trafficking and exploitation, but been fantastic for the NextDoor community of busybodies and concern-trolls. The #MeToo movement has flatlined. I don’t see any real efforts to provide financial aid or social assistance to kids targeted for sex work. But lots of local news sites seem obsessed with elevating allegations of sex between kids to the front pages.
Reminds me of the Satanic Panic of the 1980s, wherein 12,000 unsubstantiated cases of Satanic ritual abuse were reported and investigated by prosecutors leaning into the national media trend and looking to make headlines. Right now, we’ve got a flood of Trans-Panic and Gay-Panic news articles that try and conflate kids going through hormone therapy with psycho-leftist parents doing mass grooming.
Doesn’t look like this guy gives a shit about LGBTQ civil rights. But those that do are chronically aware of how simply being queer can get you tossed in the same category as creeps and predators.
Sexuality in general isn’t a good topic for public debate, as it is highly personal, highly nuanced, and few people even want to touch the nastier issues related to it, because it gets BAD. When nobody is getting hurt, it’s nobody else’s business, but when people are getting hurt, just knowing about it can damage people’s mental health. At the risk of getting banned, I’ll point out a few of the things that nobody wants to discuss, for good reason.
NSFL
Killing/eating people is an actual fetish
Children who are raped often develop similar sexual desires as their rapists, be it age and/or orientation
Corruption/deceit is an actual fetish
I’m tapping out here instead of wracking my brain for more, because I’m already making myself sick remembering things I’ve seen.
Seriously though, I’m personally quite upset with the vast quantity of pornography available online, because I feel strongly that exposing children to such sexual material (don’t pretend it’s reasonable for anyone to be able to keep them away from it) has a serious negative impact upon their development, speaking as someone who was once a child on the Internet.
Sexuality in general isn’t a good topic for public debate
The topic typically revolves around the idea of “public safety”. But public safety in the American context appears to be fixated on state surveillance and the prosecution of religious taboos. The end result is a country where things that are taboo (namely publicly facing queer sexuality) get pursued aggressively while things that aren’t taboo (older richer whiter men taking advantage of their younger and more vulnerable peers in cloistered settings) get swept under the rug. And the end game is the local news running mugshots of the poorest, saddest, ugliest fucks on the planet for soliciting publicly, while the owners of the parent media companies do Epstein tier shit in the executive lounge of a remote island high rise.
Sexuality and its criminality mirrors the expression of the social power dynamic. You didn’t see Chris Hansen catching anyone in $10,000 business suit on his show.
The post was deleted, but I was able to access it exploiting the fact that the deletion didn’t federate with another instance. Should I repost it here? Serious question, it’s yucky but without the content of the post it’s really hard to say something about it.
EDIT: archive link to the post. Discretion is advised.
Anyway. I’ll focus on the claims made by the user, instead of assuming if he is or isn’t a paedophile.
What people like that mod, or Richard Stallman, don’t get, is:
- consent is impaired if one person has power over another
- the age gap gives you power
Beyond that all that talk about desire is a big red herring because attraction is shit inside your head, what matters is what you do.
I won’t comment about remocrats vs. depublicans because I don’t care about USA internal politics.
Dude the mental gymnastics this guy tried to put you through to try and justify trying to make leftists okay with him wanting to fuck 15 year olds is insane. And you can tell he thinks he’s WAY smarter than he actually is.
Yup. The whole thing is a fallacious slop: fallacy of the beard, straw man, begging the question, so goes on. And as a result, he’s defending something that is morally insane.
Those two are not the same:
- a 20yo has sex with a 17yo; no payment is involved
- a 42yo has sex with a 17yo; the 17yo is an escort
and yet he’s trying to make both look like the same.
I’ve archived it. I think that it’s important for transparency.
Sadly I couldn’t find the content of the comments of the two banned users. That modlog calling everyone “troll” strongly hints PTB, though.
Yeah. His opinions about software freedom are fairly solid, but when it comes to children and sexuality, he’d do everyone a favour if he simply shut up.
In his defence, though, I don’t think that he’s a paedophile; I think that he’s just trying to extend his views about individual freedom into sexuality, but he’s too socially clueless to get it right. And then the whole thing blew out of proportion because of both witch hunters and people exploiting it for political opposition.
Yah that post is gross. I’d remove it.
There’s your reason why.
The pedo holds the reins.
Block the community, block the user, move on.
Should probably report this stuff to their instance admins. That way it disappears completely, that’s a better solution than pretending things don’t exist, especially when it comes to shit like this where the person is a pedophile.
I’d also suggest letting your local instance admins know about it since once they know they can ban the user with content removal which will wipe out he community on those instances as well.
Yeah, quite aware that’s the mod and thought I said as much. Should I reword it to make it clearer that both the mods I refer to are the same?
