I think there are examples of projects getting criticized for not recreating the corposhit. Take GIMP — sure some folks really like it, but there are huge swaths of people who basically just say, “why doesn’t it work like Photoshop?!” and get very frustrated with its different approach.
Personally, I like Google Photos — the interface, not the product — so when Immich came along and basically cloned it, I was really happy (I think Immich is fantastic, and at this point calling it a Photos clone is kinda offensive tbh — it’s way cool).
Some corposhit just sucks, yeah, but some is actually well thought out — no shame in taking the concept and running with it, IMHO.
I’ve never used either, honestly, so I’m pretty sure I’m not entitled to an opinion, but I do know that every time someone says they ‘use’ or ‘like’ GIMP all I can imagine is the dude from Pulp Fiction going, “Eh, it’s a living!” with a defeated sort-of shrug (a la the wooly mammoth-cum-showerhead from the Flintstones)
I mean, either way, you do you and all, I don’t kink/platform-shame
cat -vconsidered harmful
Bell Laboratories
Murray Hill, NJ (dec!ucb)wav!research!rob
It seems that UNIX has become the victim of cancerous growth at the hands of
organizations such as UCB. 4.2BSD is an order of magnitude larger than Version
5, but, Pike claims, not ten times better.
The talk reviews reasons for UNIX's popularity and shows, using UCB cat as a
primary example, how UNIX has grown fat. cat isn't for printing files with line
numbers, it isn't for compressing multiple blank lines, it's not for looking at
non-printing ASCII characters, it's for concatenating files.
We are reminded that ls isn't the place for code to break a single column into
multiple ones, and that mailnews shouldn't have its own more processing or joke
encryption code.
Rob carried the standard well for the "spirit of UNIX," and you can look
forward to a deeper look at the philosophy of UNIX in his forthcoming book.
Yeah there are some pieces of code that are super bloated in the FOSS community. I think it does not help overall because it mixes the primitive meaning for an application. Such as systemd or even GCC. I’m starting to like much more simple designs like GNU Shepherd. Or the idea of having a Hurd like kernel (which does not need to be Hurd). Or shifting to more simple CPU ISAs. Designs should have the necessary entropy, not more not less. Trying to allocate more stuff in a design does not help.
I think some part of the GNU community is starting to understand that.
Emacs is bloated? Probably more than it should be. Maybe it should be more minimalistic and move most of it to modules. But is LEGO bloated? Emacs can be regarded bloated because how it is shiped, but not for what it is. Not being modular and programmable would make Emacs not Emacs.
This is a topic very interesting to touch but probably not to talk about it in a comment section hahahha.
I’m pretty experienced in some technical ways, but still learning a lot on Linux / kernel level. I appreciate your comment as I learn more about lower level architectures like this.
Reading about the Hurd microkernal was really interesting, here’s the wiki article for others:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Hurd
Def open to other suggestions on good resources for these topics.
Rob carried the standard well for the “spirit of UNIX,”
if (isatty(1)) {
if (ioctl(1,JMUX,0) >= 0) {
struct winsize win;
if (ioctl(1,JWINSIZE,&win) >= 0) {
screenwidth = win.bytesx;
if (screenwidth == 0)
screenwidth++;
}
}
qflg = Cflg = 1;
(void) gtty(1, &sgbuf);
if ((sgbuf.sg_flags & XTABS) == 0)
usetabs = 1;
}
Tiling window managers fit this for me.
I used Windows 2.something on an old Compaq 386 (16MHz) and it didn’t automatically title anything. There was an option to tile (or cascade) the current window set, but a new window would not cause a retiling. Neither would a window closing.
Windows 1; not 2
-Because of a lawsuit from Apple.
Fwiw, I’ve seen some people demonstrate a robust and efficient keyboard based workflow using floating window management. Sometimes it’s a simple matter of what you set out to learn.
so we can keep being stuck with corposhit products with no alternatives?
What’s #cat-v?
Considered harmful.
It’s the IRC channel for https://cat-v.org/
There are some very clever people there with very specific ideas and opinions about computing.
I open the site and see:
‘The Internet is not for sissies.’ – Paul Vixie
It’s always important to make a good first impression or whatever.
I think it’s achieving the intended goal of gatekeeping the site to 50+ year-old graybeards with narcissistic tendencies and a persecution complex which have decanted over the decades into a nasty brew of unfiltered bitterness.
