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Humanity is doomed because of America. Your anti-environmental capitalism and rapacious foreign policy have altered the world in an entirely negative way, and the only realistic scenario for the US to cut this shit out is by losing a war to a major competitor, such as China. China is hugely flawed itself, but is the less harmful option imo.

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China pollutes way more than the US though and are far less transparent about it.

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I’m not holding China up as some panacea, it’s very far from perfect (e.g. authoritarian security state, denial of Taiwanese independence, etc.), but i do think it does less net harm than the US. I would also suggest that the things we criticise China for are things which we would overlook in a country which was perceived as less of a threat to western dominance.

In any case, i was trying to say not that i want the US to be like China, but rather that i think the only way to prevent the US from killing us all is through a radical change of attitude, most likely caused by the loss of a major conflict.

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The down votes are coming from inside the house country!

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They’re also modernizing faster than us. They’ll be green first.

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8 points

They literally just built like 9 coal plants last year…

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It also has about 4x the population, and doesn’t pollute 4x more.

Plus it’s still the largest manufacturing hub in the world. Europe would pollute a lot more if we hadn’t exported a lot of (some might say too much) of our industry to the developing world and China over the last 50 years.

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No they don’t, what are you talking about?

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I lived there for many years. Trust me, they do.

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tankie take

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If that’s your takeaway, you’ve missed the point. Well done.

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Thanks! Happy New Year

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But your point was that China is better than the US because… well because it is.

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This definitely won’t be a pile of horseshit from people never been there, believe everything they see on TV, and operate completely on stereotypes from various sources, sprinkled with the dumbest takes you ever heard, and a bunch of blaming capitalism like it’s the only nation that employs it.

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I’m gonna go ahead and assume that you are talking about Americans in the sense of the Americans who live in the USA.

God-damnit guys, not everything is about you.

Now, I don’t know if USA inhabitants are not ready to hear it, but certainly Lemmy USA residents are not.

Like it or not, you guys have a GREAT COUNTRY in the USA

Worldwide, people envy you. The poorest inhabitant of the USA has rights, possibilities and duties that only the richest in any other country can only dream of.

For God’s sake, people are literally willing to kill themselves trying to reach your country, to have an atom of freedom that you guys squander with petty squabbles.

No USA proper citizen has ever been in the need so dire to escape the USA that they need to build a raft to risk their lives to go anywhere from their Homeland.

For that same reason, collectivists worldwide hate you and your country with undying hate. Because you (as in your society) don’t need them. And they do need you. And they resent this so much, that they’re willing to destroy you all just to stop that from being true.

You guys have lived so cozy and accommodated lives, thanks to the disrespected sacrifices made willingly by millions that you are bored out of your minds.

So much in fact, that with a little nudge from the collectivists worldwide seeking your destruction, you yourselves plunge willingly into the chaos of unmaking by allowing the collectivist mindset to pollute your youngest.

Make no mistake, the USA will keep growing and thriving, like it or not.

But not thanks to your internal or external enemies. That’s for sure.

Edit: the upvote to downvote ratio tells me I followed the post premise to a T

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Ok, so I’m going to do one that’s actually likely to be downvoted by the Americans here.

Sometimes censorship is necessary for a safer society.

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You need a second civil war

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