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This was a good blog post. I particularly appreciated the statement about the validate and parse function comparison: “Both of these functions check the same thing, but parseNonEmpty gives the caller access to the information it learned, while validateNonEmpty just throws it away.”

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I’ve first read this post back in 2019 when it was released and I have to say that it really has left quite an impact on the way I write programs these days. The „make illegal states unrepresentable“ and „push proofs up“ guidelines are so simple yet so effective. Sure, there is some initial cost to create new datatypes, but it really pays off in the long run. Not having to worry about null or wrongly shaped data structures down the line is really nice, especially if you’re working on older code or develop in a team. Even though the post uses Haskell to explain the concepts, I found it to also work well in other languages, even Java or Python.

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confused java dev: what do you mean a function can’t return void???

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void in Java and Void in Haskell are quite different. As the post explains, in Haskell it’s a type with no possible values. In Java, the equivalent would be a class without a constructor (not sure if that’s even possible). It defines a type, but you cannot construct a value or object with that type. The equivalent of Java‘s void in Haskell is the unit type () which has exactly one possible value, also called (). It can be returned by a function, but it does not give you any information, just like void. By the way, Rust also uses the unit type instead of void.

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You do have a Void type in Java if you really must specify a return type and don’t want to return anything e.g. services and their tasks in JavaFx. The Task must have a return type thus you can use Void if the task doesn’t actually return anything.

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Well, yeah, but that Void type is different than the Void type in Haskell.

The Haskell-Void says that the function never returns. So, for example, if the function always goes into an infinite loop. Or only ever throws an exception or does a System.exit(0). You cannot portray that in Java, to my knowledge.

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yeah that was the joke, thanks for explaining it

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Hey I had this post in mind just yesterday when I was working on some Mastodon client code to show comments on my static-site blog. Typescript is especially well-suited for deriving types from parsers. I also enjoyed brushing up on how to use JSDoc annotations and ES modules to publish what is effectively Typescript that runs in the browser without a build step.

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data NonEmpty a = a :| [a]

Note that NonEmpty a is really just a tuple of an a and an ordinary, possibly-empty [a]. This conveniently models a non-empty list by storing the first element of the list separately from the list’s tail: even if the [a] component is [], the a component must always be present.

Wat? How can I “store the first element of the list separated from the lists tail” when the list is empty? Whether a list is empty or not is a runtime possibility, not a compile-time possibility.

Someone care to explain this part? It does not compute at all for me.

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You cannot, and that’s why that type declaration models a NonEmpty that a type checker can enforce

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During the parsing step, you check that the list has at least one element. If it does not, you report an error to the user and exit. If it does, you take the first element in the least and store it in the left side of your tuple, and then the remaining elements of the input list go into the right side of your tuple.

So, for example: [1, 2, 3] → (1, [2, 3])
Or also: [1] → (1, [])
If the user gives you [], then you cannot represent that with your tuple, you necessarily have to error.

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