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Info on categories. looks like they’re not even taking into account repairability in climate. I’d guess that’s why apple is scored highly.

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I was wondering why on earth all these brands got full marks on climate. Absolute bogus table.

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Why are they including the samsung galaxy book, which is a laptop but not samsung phones, in a mobile phone comparison?

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full score on tech sustainability for the company that removed the headphone jack at the same they they releases Bluetooth headphones while their earlier models still can’t call properly! Whoohoo

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Can some investor pour 100 million or something into fairphone so the phones actually become good?

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If it’s your average investor, they’ll want a return, which will make fair phone stop being ethical.

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Isn’t fair phone a for profit company? If it is, doesn’t change much.

If it is a non-profit, then that’s even better, lets get some philanthropist on it.

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For profit and for infinitely exponentially increasing profit are two different business types.

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Other than being a bit thick, the Fairphone 5 is actually a very good phone.

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Totally agree. I prefer my Fairphone to nearly any other phone I’ve owned.

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You have one? I’ve heard bad things about software compatibility.

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Yes. Although I don’t know what you mean with “software comparability”.

I am still on the stock Android it comes with, which works fine but is still infested with Google stuff. I am not sure about the state of alternative ROMs, but I think it is not bad given how relatively new the hardware is. Personally I plan to switch to PostmarketOS or Mobian once that support matures a bit, but it seems to be almost there now.

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It takes a lot of work and time to build smartphones.

The Pixel and the iPhone weren’t built overnight.

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I bought one a couple of years ago, still use it. It’s not that bad, just don’t expect any crazy fluff. It’s the compromise one makes for a sustainable future. Cheaper than most flagships.

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Cheaper than most flagships.

Yea, because It’s not a flagship, it’s got a crap proc that even the Tensor 2 beats. The Tensor 2 proc that has been widely regarded as the worst processor.

And 6 GB RAM on the base model? What‽ What year is this‽

You have to really prioritize the Fairphone mission and accept all the compromises you have to make

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prioritize the Fairphone mission

As if 10 years ago we didn’t do just fine with phones like the fairphone 4. It’s just ridiculous to me that you mock its processor like it’s not even a functional phone.

You won’t be more content with your life by always reaching for more. It’s a capitalistic and consumer mindset. Bound to fail in due time.

What good is a 124 GB RAM phone when the world is uninhabitable.

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I don’t understand why people need so much processing power in a phone?

If you really need mobile processing power and can tolerate a larger device, even a cheap, old, shitty, crusty, used laptop would likely offer a better experience.

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I get that, but as someone on a currently near 8 year old phone, I’ve been told by friends the fairphone will barely last half that long :/.

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How so? All parts are replacable with just a screwdriver. I do have to disclose I am replying to you on a FP5.

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It’s a low end smartphone with mid range price and awful security. What’s not to love?

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Yeah, yeah, the Fairphone is very fair until you’re forced to use their software because they’re unable to collaborate with GrapheneOS because they leak keys, all their bootloader security is bullshit and they don’t care about making it right.

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It’s true that there are issues preventing GrapheneOS from rubbing on FairPhones, but you’re not forced to use the standard OS: you can install other ROMs on FairPhone like LineageOS, CalyxOS, iodéOS, /e/

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They’re actively working with Murena to make sure /e/ works well, and you can even buy Fairphones with /e/ out of the box.

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Who leaks keys? Can you provide me some reading material?

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