60 points

Honestly really wholesome to see, which means the US will step in any second to stop this.

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Trump gonna throw out an EO banning it on like day 2

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60 points

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23 points

PRC+USSR propaganda posters with hunky dudes? Move over. It’s time for cats.

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I also wonder about the opposite of this like since rednote is mostly kind of a space for more pro western liberalized Chinese young people, how many of them are gonna get scared straight talking to Americans lol

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49 points

was thinking this. the radicalization can go both ways

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Also I don’t know how much these types of posts say anything about anything because these people have no object permanence and tend to believe whatever’s in front of them or the last thing said to them. They have probably looked at Chinese netizens debunking of their priors with the same scrutiny as their original wrong opinions. XHS gets banned and all of these people will revert to treatlerites within 1 hour of returning to instagram or w/e.

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Yea i dont expect it will trigger any introspection in people like “oh maybe I should be more critical of what the state dept says about x.” They’ll believe the very next lie they’re told even lol. But hopefully with respect to China itself it’ll erode the anti-Chinese/anti-communist sentiment among a decent portion of young(ish) people

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2 points

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68 points

Exactly, while Americans are discovering that much of what their government said about China was false, the Chinese are realizing that conditions in the US are as bad, or worse, than their own government said.

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Just saw this on Twitter lol

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70 points

Mass shootings in the US get way less coverage in China because it gets to a point where people start dismissing it as propaganda. Big ones make the news for a while, but most of them get touched on briefly and the news moves on.

Like, surely, after your 3rd mass shooting in a decade, the government would step in and do something about it, right?

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I’m like 50:50 as to whether news out of China specifically just short-circuits a populaces brain that cannot even imagine anymore that the people like a government. I mean you look at like global north numbers and it peaks at, what, 30% or so? Removed from everything else I get the feeling the idea that you could like a government has died

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“We’ve had 15 mass shootings in 2025 so far”

“You mean in the 2020’s, right?”

“Nope”

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Like, surely, after your 3rd mass shooting in a decade, the government would step in and do something about it, right

One would think!

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3 points

Reminds me of a saying from the SSRs after '91: “Everything they told us about communism was a lie, and everything they told us about capitalism was true.”

Except, you know, Chinese people seem to really like their communist party

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3 points

Yeah, CPC thankfully managed to avoid the pitfalls of KPRF.

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So many are so surprised about how expensive it is to live in the US, and how the median citizen really doesn’t earn enough to live well. College tuition and student loans are another one.

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76 points

Let’s go!

But yea this is just a drop in the bucket. Every person I talk to in America has this warped view of China. The propaganda here is quite effective, cause even people who call themselves apolitical or barely know anything can recite anti-china talking points

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That’s why direct interactions between people are so important. As soon as Americans start talking to the Chinese, they quickly realize that they’ve been fed bullshit their whole lives. And while it’s still a small number of people talking, I think it will grow because of networking effects. People will tell their friends, and they will get curious, and so on. I really think this is an incredibly important moment.

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26 points

I thought MMOs and online gaming would do this when I was little, nah gamers can’t be helped.

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27 points

Just about every game I’ve ever played has regional servers meaning that US players never get to interact with people from other countries, often not even English speaking Europe. There’s only a few exceptions to that like EVE Online and their large Russian communities, but even then the groups tend to self-segregate.

Things might be different if everyone was just always forced to play together.

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In games I played I went off what hours I’m available. As a child I had bad insomnia and ended up playing with east Asian guilds a lot, as a very young adult for a bit the only time I could play was during Euro hours.

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10 points

What few Russian words I know are solely from staying up late and only finding Russians to play Left 4 Dead with lmao

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One of my fav experiences was in college playing with an international crew, we didn’t understand each other much but we knew we had to beat the other team.

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29 points

You can even track how effective it is over time. Negative views on china in the us and canada jumped 30% in like 15 years.

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What happened in 2015/2016 (ish?) to have that dip?

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I imagine reactionary libs shifting their position in response to Trump’s anti-China rhetoric.

The libs also laughed at Mitt Romney for saying Russia was a huge threat, now all those libs think Russia is going to conquer all of Europe.

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12 points

Americans realized China was serious about socialism and they weren’t going to fall into the same trap as the Soviets. IIRC it was around that time the CPC initiated a lot of purges and anti-corruption policies.

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I personally thought China had Sanda instead of BJJ/judo. They are rank 4 in judo at the Olympics. I saw videos of people doing BJJ and judo and it’s every bit like it is in the anglosphere

I am not immune to propaganda

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with 1.5b+ people surely they have everything. there are an excess of black belts these days. they’re all over the world starting gyms

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there are an excess of black belts these days

Less than 1 in 1000 BJJ students get their black belt so jot that down

But more constructively, I saw an interesting conversation regarding the fidelity and information communicated by belts. It was the idea that you have a badge system for people who have been in the sport for a long time without competition results. So you still celebrate long time contribution to the art but you don’t make a claim about their martial competency. Maybe you could have gilded belts for universally recognized competition results. So you have 5+ stripes for competency in different sections of the art, gilded lining for comp results, and the normal ranking. It would be more complicated and flashy, so there’s pros and cons.

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