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They are both wrong.

The correct way is to argue passionately that your country has committed the MOST war crimes/genocides/human rights violations. Ya know, bragging rights.

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Deutschland betritt den Raum…

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Bockwurstscheibeninspektorplakettenhalter

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I think there is a differrnce of Germany before EU and after EU

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🤝 our governments are committing war crimes

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Ultimately we have more in common with a normal Chinese person just trying to live their lives than any of us do with our ruling classes. I’m sure those same ruling classes would rather us be less aware of that fact.

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Idk why there’s such a pissing match in this post. Like honestly. Both our governments are shit. Why is this even a debate as to whose government is committing war crimes more? Your comment is the best comment here by far.

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If a serial murderer told you that their victims were actually much worse than they are, would you believe them?

Yet the source of pretty much all anti-china atrocity propaganda is the US and its orgs like the victims of communism foundation. They want you to believe every single country they hate, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, etc… are guilty of the same crimes they are. Why do you believe them?

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Solidarity amongst the working class!

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I might have laughed out loud on a silent bus. But worth it

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One side is right tho

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Na both are right. All countries have blood on their hands. It’s honestly not a good comparison.

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sure the united states has comparable blood on their hands as China 😂 aight buddy

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Looks like someone failed us history.

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I mean if you want to count down to the individual blood cell spilled of course is going to be different. But the pressures that make the US do horrible stuff are the same pressures that make China do horrible stuff are the same pressures that make any country do horrible stuff.

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Boring.

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What war is China supposedly involved in?

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They still need to finish there civil war TIWIAN WILL BE RETURNED

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The inner battle of not issuing a final warning, duh. Truly a vicious war.

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you see, these 2 are equally as bad because a german that doesn’t speak a word of mandarin and has not ever visited china provided me a satellite picture of a big building and wrote a fan fiction about it.

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Yeah like wtf is this lmao, apparently “war crime” is now when bad country does bad thing

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Well Americans are certainly telling Chinese users that their government is committing warcrimes like the meme says

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Uyghur genocide

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Saddam’s WMDs

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Sandinistas killing babies

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiEhITvJuyE

You can watch this and look for any evidence of your claim. You wont see any. Or you can take my word for it when i tell you i literally spoke to a uyghur from Xinjiang on XHS the other day and they were chillin enjoying life.

Either way maybe dont just take the word of whatever Western Media mouthpieces tell you?

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All vloggers are paid by CPC, every Chinese you meet on the internet are bots. /s

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C’mon bro we can’t seriously be debating if the Uyghur genocide is real. Obviously China isn’t all evil but this is a well documented genocide.

And bro why you pulling the “I’m not racist, I have a black friend” card. Shut yo bitch ass up

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? The UN has thoroughly investigated and concluded that the ‘Uyghur genocide’ is a fabrication https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/ohchr-assessment-human-rights-concerns-xinjiang-uyghur-autonomous-region I suggest you read it rather than have it filtered through biased western media orgs, and I trust their investigation a lot more than those from countries like the US that have a vested interest in painting China as negatively as possible

Even if the propaganda were true it would constitute a crime against humanity not a war crime, unless you consider the ETIM terror campaign a ‘war’

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A fabrication? Did you even read that pdf? I quote:

Serious human rights violations have been committed in XUAR in the context of the Government’s application of counter-terrorism and counter-“extremism” strategies. The implementation of these strategies, and associated policies in XUAR has led to interlocking patterns of severe and undue restrictions on a wide range of human rights. These patterns of restrictions are characterized by a discriminatory component, as the underlying acts often directly or indirectly affect Uyghur and other predominantly Muslim communities.

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Yep, no war crimes 👍

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Yeah, not really comparable when it comes to war crimes. If someone wanted to conflate a topic that makes both countries look similarly bad in an honest light, it would be the treatment of ethnic minorities.

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the treatment of ethnic minorities

You mean the US having the highest prison population in the world, to the point of 1 in 5 black men over 30 having been to jail at some point of their lives?

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That would not be an honest light. China actually takes their affirmative action seriously and not just pays lip service to it while continuing to enact genocidal policies like the US still does on the indigenous peoples of the mainland and occupied Hawai’i which has been gentrified and settled to the point of being unlivable for most of the locals.

The claims of China’s abuse of ethnic minorities are a scam espoused by the same people profitting off the genocide in Palestine. Anybody who takes the evidence seriously instead of treating accusations as trustworthy because of the volume of them doesn’t understand (or chooses to ignore) how the US propaganda machine has always worked.

People still on that “China genocide” bs are about as ridiculous as people claiming Iraq had WMDs into the Obama years. It’s a level of gullibility so big that it has to be voluntary.

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enact genocidal policies like the US still does on the indigenous peoples of the mainland and occupied Hawai’i which has been gentrified and settled to the point of being unlivable for most of the locals.

And the same has been said about tibet, inner Mongolia, and xinjiang. I mean you can look at Chinas own census data and see that han Chinese are migrating to cities in xinjiang, displacing ethnic minorities to move away from their cultural cities.

The claims of China’s abuse of ethnic minorities are a scam espoused by the same people profitting off the genocide in Palestine. Anybody who takes the evidence seriously instead of treating accusations as trustworthy because of the volume of them doesn’t understand (or chooses to ignore) how the US propaganda machine has always worked.

You are conflating the accusations of genocide in one region with the accusations of ethnic discrimination. Even in that grey zone article it is conflating the study from some weird neocon group with all investigations into ethnic discrimination in China.

Han chauvinism is an established concept that even Mao took aims to curtail. Something they are still combating considering there has only been one ethnic minority to serve in the central committee in the last 35 years.

An actual criticism that I have about Xi is that he is a bit culturally conservative. The belt and road initiative utilized a lot of han centric language and the current central committee is notably the first committee that has no women serving on it in the last +25 years.

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