Woah the lawsuit company that makes games on the side did a thing other then filing lawsuits?
Doesn’t matter, I won’t be spending any more money on Nintendouch products.
They ruined enough fan projects for me to start hating them.
And I have not even touched the subject of the calculated breaking point in the original Switch, better known as Joy-Cons.
None of the fan projects would even be possible without Nintendo in the first place, but you do you.
Agreed. Especially with x86 and the cornucopia of retro handhelds coming out all the time. Why would I want to waste money on a product that’s going to come out already inferior to the competition, with locked down software experience, from a company that bullies their own fans?
I never bought the first Switch, so this is just another thing I won’t buy.
Obligatory fuck Nintendo.
Honestly, I’m a little concerned. Nintendo almost always tries something new and innovative. This just looks like a hardware upgrade, which is good, but not what keeps them ahead of their competitors. The Steam Deck is already encroaching on the Switch’s territory, and it’s only a matter of time before Playstation and Xbox try something similar (assuming Microsoft doesn’t just give up on consoles and just make PCs). I was expecting something no one else would try, like a duel-screen that could function like a Wii U and a DS.
When the DS became the best selling gaming handheld we got
- DS OG 2004
- DS Lite 2006
- DSi 2009 (removed Gameboy slot)
- DSi XL 2010
They then went on to make the 3DS in multiple iterations including one where they just removed the 3D functionality and sold it again as a DS and the most recent model in 2017 was…
- New Nintendo 2DS XL
When they have a successful and well selling portable console they slow down on the innovation and go full into embrace the ecosystem as long as possible with minor improvements and if we use the DS as an indicator we have a decade of this.
Yeah, but those are just different models, not different systems. Those DSs were all running the same operating system and playing the same games. We’re not talking about a new generation of console (except from DS to 3DS, which I would say is a pretty big graphical shake-up).
Ok. That’s great buddy. (☞ ಠ_ಠ)☞
I’m gonna exit this conversation now.
Eh, I had the Gameboy, then the Gameboy pocket, then the Gameboy color, then the Gameboy advance, then the Gameboy advance SP, then the DS, and so on. Sure, some were just different models of the same base console, but several were real upgrades with exclusive game libraries. This upgrade feels par for the course when it comes to Nintendo handhelds, and honestly, I like that. The switch was a great idea, and jumping to a new thing just because there’s some competition would be lame. Pretty much the only benefit of capitalism is supposed to be the whole “competition breeds innovation” thing. Maybe we’ll get a bit of that in the handheld market for once.
The difference here is the entire DS line played the same games and provided the same core hardware. The 3DS, 3DS XL, and 2DS all played the same games.
The Switch comparison here would be:
- OG Switch
- Switch Lite
- OLED Switch
The closest comparison for Switch 2 would be the “New 3DS” which had a handful of games that weren’t backwards compatible. Or maybe the Wii U, although that tried to be innovative enough to be its own thing.
Yeah I would put this in comparison with the OG 3DS however the main changes seem like they may be in the joycon redesign instead of the screen. The game carts will all be basically identical and potentially still swappable between consoles depending on the game. And the added functionality will probably be unfelt by a lot of people who won’t bother with it.
They are working on making the quirk of the system better and giving it an engine tuneup.
They still go long periods of time with practically no “innovation” as that’s not their point but making a fun toy is.
We haven’t officially seen the specs yet but it seems safe to say they are more powerful and that “Switch 2 exclusive games” can access that power. That will mean its more like DS/3DS (or PS4/PS5) in that the new gen will get its own library but will still have access to the sizable software catalogue from the earlier gen.
I was really hoping for the hand-held virtual portal they had planned a few years ago. Assuming it got scrapped when 3DS didn’t do as well as they hoped. But yeah, basically the tech from the *new 3DS, upgraded to a bigger single screen with an imu so you could use the portal to control the in-game camera. And it would basically feel like you are looking through and holding an actual portal into the videogame world you are playing.
It’s possible to just do more easily/cheaply in VR now. But I still think a physical device doing it would surprise alot of people.
It doesn’t help that the rumored price is $450. If it ends up being that high, I’ll definitely go for a Steam Deck instead. Con: can’t play Switch 2 games. Pro: everything else. I know electronics are super expensive now, but without the advantage of a lower price, a competitor’s portable console that’s not a walled garden is a very tempting alternative.
Oof, yeah, that’s pretty steep for Nintendo. Honestly, I always wait at least a year for the library to build up and the price to drop a bit. I’ve heen thinking that a Steam Deck would be my next purchase as well, and if the Switch 2 turns out OK I’ll get it in a couple of years.
I think price drops are a thing of the past for consoles nowadays, unless you’re getting something used. Neither the Switch nor PS5 ever dropped in price. The PS5 even RAISED in price in some markets.
Can’t play Switch 2 game, yet. I have Yuzu/Ryujinx running multiple games at better frame rates than the Switch itself the using SyncThing to keep saves/isos mirrors to my NAS and PC so I could seamlessly move from desktop to Steamdeck and back.
Unironically better functionality than the device I was emulating. I still bought games on the eShop to assuage my conscience, but only after is played more than 4-5hrs so I even gave myself timed demos of everything as opposed to whatever the devs had time to carve out (if they even did).
I wouldn’t count on Switch 2 emulation being nearly as good as Switch 1 was. Not many people are going to be willing to put a lot of effort into it for free when it’s known that Nintendo will aggressively shut them down.
I like the blue and pink accent colours. Looks fresh!
Man, the lackadaisical reveal. Hilarious.
Also, the Youtube video is called “Switch 2 First Look”. I see what you did there, Nintendo.
Yeah I thought they were going to do more than just “here’s what it looks like!” we’ve already seen what it looks like from the leaks
The only reason everyone is whelmed is because of all the leaks.
Had no one known anything, we’d be talking about the bigger size, new joycons and such.
Since there are no surprises we are just confirming what we already know.
I don’t think so. This so far has big Game Boy Color vibes to me. Especially in the context of the Switch OLED being a thing. That’s not necessarily bad, but it’s definitely not comparable to the sheer WTF-ness of the DS, Wii or Switch reveals. And we knew what the Switch was in advance, too.
Nintendo can have a hard time letting go of successful designs sometimes. At least they put a 2 on it instead of a U and made it clear that it’s a new system in the trailer.
I’m ready to change my mind after the direct, but I think the reveal would always have been “Oh, it’s a bigger, more powerful Switch. Alright”.
