I don’t expect this to play particularly well here, and maybe I’m just being conspiratorial, but here goes:

I banned jordanlund@lemmy.world from !transgender@lemmy.blahajzone earlier today- he literally posted a matt walsh youtube link and was being otherwise transphobic in a space where that gets you banned. (link)

one of jordanlunds removed comments w/ matt walsh video:

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the reason I put down was ‘trolling about neopronouns’ I stand by that, it was violating instance rules and was unacceptable behavior from a moderator of another instance.

Shortly after that I got banned from news@lemmy.world for ‘trolling’. To be clear, jordanlund does not moderate news@lemmy.world, but the timing struck me as an odd coincidence.

The .world thread in question (link)

I was expressing my actual opinion/position on this, if anything the post I was replying to should be considered a rule 1 violation implying leftists are russian/under russian sway:

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The removed comments that I was banned (permanent) for were just me being earnest about my position, which you’re welcome to disagree with.

I don’t view protecting my rights as something worth sacrificing other people for, even if they’re on the other side of the planet. You can be mad at me or hate me for that, but I’m not trolling.

People replying felt it was reasonable to call me an idiot for example, yet another example of selective moderation. on .world.

I don’t have any conclusive proof that my banning Jordanlund and then getting banned are related other than the suspicious timing, I welcome clarification.

Anyway in the interest of neutrality and transparency I submit both my ban and jordanlunds for review.

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33 points

I hate how quick world is to mass downvote, accuse of being a russian troll, or just straight up remove comments from people who express any sort of actual left-wing opinion. Reading through that whole comment thread there was nothing you said that came across as trolling. Its kinda exhausting how many people take any criticism of the democratic party as being support for Trump, or believe voting is the most important and only way to change anything. I get closer to just blocking world entirely every day tbh.

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11 points

.world thinks if you give reasoned arguments, reputable sources, and have a logical criticism of a liberal, you’re actually just a Russian bot, China shill, trump stan, or whatever it is this week.

Being morally consistent is a negative to them and must be punished.

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-8 points

I love how being a liberal is looked down on for some reason.

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13 points

“For some reason.”

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8 points

This is a genuine question, not some sorta gotcha or anything. What’s your opinion on the “enlightened centrist” style of centrists in the US? The sort of people that say things like “both the Democrats and Republicans are too extreme.”

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I get closer to just blocking world entirely every day tbh.

Most of my blocklist is .world members, some shitjustworks, some hexbear, some .ml. And then there’s some members from a libertarian instance I never remember.

It doesn’t help that .world is the biggest one, but it feels every single smug asshole who wants to put you on their “internet arguments won comp #13” collection is from .world

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Most of my blocklist is .world members

Same.

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Its kinda exhausting how many people take any criticism of the democratic party as being support for Trump,

Exactly!

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I hate how quick world is to mass downvote, accuse of being a russian troll, or just straight up remove comments from people who express any sort of actual left-wing opinion

They’ll actually form packs of downvoters to team up and track you to downvote. I’d get downvoted in .world, then every single post after that, even my non-political/non-controversial ones would get massively downvoted.

One guy even wrote a program tracking me, then publicly offered it to others to track and downvote me. (thanks @pooperNickel@lemm.ee)

All because I voted third party in the election!! lolololol

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3 points

Please don’t do this. You pinged this person here who immediately went all over the thread arguing with people and escalating discussions.

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-2 points

Why the fuck do you keep tagging me? You’re obsessed

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4 points

I actually chuckled when I saw this because I have had you tagged as “UM obsessed”. You guys are a cute couple!

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Brah, you wrote a program to track me and bragged about it. I’m going to let everyone know it.

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26 points

To be clear, jordanlund does not moderate news@lemmy.world, but the timing struck me as an odd coincidence.

Just something else I found recently

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12 points

Oh that is interesting information, thank you!

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9 points

Oh that would explain a lot lol

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25 points

I used to think neo-pronouns are kinda silly, and I guess I still kinda do. But there’s no skin off my back to address people in a way that they don’t find hurtful. If people tell me my actions are hurtful to them, I try and take them at face value so long as doing so wouldn’t be hurtful to others or myself. Seems like basic conscientiousness to me.

PTB. You did nothing wrong here.

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My beef with neo pronouns is they are used in such a way to weaponize the “political correctness” attitude of some liberal communities

Drag is a good example because they’re a blatant troll, and pretty blatantly try to get anyone who disagrees with them about anything banned for being “transphobic”

Like it’s an obvious bit, it makes the mods and admins look like fools. Drag got banned from hexbear AND .ml for this behavior.

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5 points

It’s better to live with a few trolls than intentionally make users feel unsafe.

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Drag got banned from hexbear AND .ml

Since when are bans from those instances any kind of reference?

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It’s the reason they got banned that’s important, both .ml and hexbear are pretty lgbtq inclusive, and they love a good troll. But they wouldn’t tolerate drag.

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Well that’s just not true. I disagree with Drag all the time.

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Removed by mod
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Removed by mod
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Removed by mod
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18 points

Every other instance should defederate from .world. Neoliberal fascism is no better than regular fascism.

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11 points

Yeah. Why voluntarily get the worst part of reddit moderation?

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If neoliberals being banned is the worst part of Reddit to you, then you probably need banned too.

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I think we’re talking past each other or something. I was meaning that LemmyWorld is a shitty, reddit style, censorship regime. Not that neolibs getting banned is bad.

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This is the correct answer.

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5 points

I personally call them Fascism Lite™

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2 points

Diet Fascism.

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3 points

The issue they control some key subs, but yeah I think there is enough evidence that mods on key subs are malicious actors that are working against the fedi thesis

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Since when are they neoliberal? I encounter more bleeding heart progressives on that instance than anywhere else. Sorry they don’t pass your purity test but they sure as fuck hate fascists.

Edit: ohhhh haha, I just checked your instance. Yea no wonder they aren’t leftie enough for you, go home tankie 👋

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5 points

Hello red scare. It’s getting tiring.

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You’re a lot of things, but not scary.

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16 points

Isn’t FlyingSquid a mod there? They cooperate with one another, so if you cross one you cross both.

But yeah, doesn’t surprise me. Jordan is the same white dude who said he didn’t support BLM because protests inconvenienced him. He’s a peak liberal Zionist.

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Jordan is the same white dude who said he didn’t support BLM because protests inconvenienced him. He’s a peak liberal Zionist.

That stuff was wild

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2 points

Why are you bringing up his race at all as it is his views that are objectionable not his skin tone.

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It’s not my fault white dudes tend to be the only people complaining about civil rights. If you don’t like people stating facts, then maybe turn on Fox News or sub to Trump on his social media. Then you won’t have to worry about it anymore.

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it’s not my fault white dudes tend to be…

So while I don’t actually disagree, I have to point out that this sounds exactly like how racists defence themselves. “It’s not my fault that black people are…”

And again I don’t think that your view is wrong, but I think we should be careful with words

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Nah, I’ll continue to call out racism when I see it. There’s no need to bring up his race.

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Isn’t FlyingSquid a mod there?

One will bait, then other will ban to maintain the image of propriety

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No, he is not.

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Isn’t FlyingSquid a mod there

He was, but if I remember correctly, he had a huge mental breakdown and threatened to commit suicide over zoom, and I think they removed him until he starts feeling better. It was a big deal a few days ago.

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This is a community in the spirit of “Am I The Asshole” where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.


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All posts should follow this basic structure:

  1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
  2. What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
  3. Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
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  • If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.

Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.

Make sure you follow this instance’s code of conduct. In other words we won’t allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.

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Some acronyms you might see.

  • PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
  • YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
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