I don’t expect this to play particularly well here, and maybe I’m just being conspiratorial, but here goes:
I banned jordanlund@lemmy.world from !transgender@lemmy.blahajzone earlier today- he literally posted a matt walsh youtube link and was being otherwise transphobic in a space where that gets you banned. (link)
one of jordanlunds removed comments w/ matt walsh video:
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the reason I put down was ‘trolling about neopronouns’ I stand by that, it was violating instance rules and was unacceptable behavior from a moderator of another instance.
Shortly after that I got banned from news@lemmy.world for ‘trolling’. To be clear, jordanlund does not moderate news@lemmy.world, but the timing struck me as an odd coincidence.
The .world thread in question (link)
I was expressing my actual opinion/position on this, if anything the post I was replying to should be considered a rule 1 violation implying leftists are russian/under russian sway:
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The removed comments that I was banned (permanent) for were just me being earnest about my position, which you’re welcome to disagree with.
I don’t view protecting my rights as something worth sacrificing other people for, even if they’re on the other side of the planet. You can be mad at me or hate me for that, but I’m not trolling.
People replying felt it was reasonable to call me an idiot for example, yet another example of selective moderation. on .world.
I don’t have any conclusive proof that my banning Jordanlund and then getting banned are related other than the suspicious timing, I welcome clarification.
Anyway in the interest of neutrality and transparency I submit both my ban and jordanlunds for review.
That checks out for Jordanlund and Lemmy.world, unsurprising and still sad.
PTB. Your comments don’t look like trolling to me.
Of course it you who posts this. Lol, trolling is accurate it’s even what you’ve tried to do with this post itself. From what you showed us, Jordan was literally nowhere near being transphobic and was simply calling the bizarre troll a troll. “Neopronoun” isn’t a word that means “you will call me a dragon or else you’re transphobic”, probably because “dragon” isn’t nor will it ever be a gender
Liberals justifying their harmful actions because it’s normalized to bully them. Man, it’s a wonder why Harris lost!
Jordan straight up posted a matt walsh/libs of tiktok video as a derisive jab, posting transphobic shit gets you banned.
If you’re unwilling to call people by what they ask to be called on a trans instance you’re gonna get banned.
He obviously was equating that behavior in the video with that dragon fucker troll. And we all know you know that, including you. I’m familiar with your tactics: pretending that some keyword or mention of something proves a bad thing about the person saying it. It’s fucking lazy and not credible…
Being a dragon cosplayer troll is completely unrelated to being trans, unless … Are you implying trans people are making it up too? That is the truly disgusting implication here.
I think your real problem with Jordan is that after months of letting universalmonk poison Lemmy with pro trump propaganda, he finally fucking banned him.
after months of letting universalmonk poison Lemmy with pro trump propaganda
I didn’t support or vote for Trump. I voted third party. And me and Jordan are still pretty cool and talk fairly regularly.
Thanks, friend!
He obviously was equating that behavior in the video with that dragon fucker troll.
Yes, it very was obvious, that’s why he got banned for transphobia.
Are you implying trans people are making it up too?
I’m trans, I have no issue with anyone pushing the bounds on gender. Gender is part of oppressive systems to be dismantled in any way possible, not something to respect the ‘norms’ of.
I think your real problem with Jordan is that after months of letting universalmonk poison Lemmy with pro trump propaganda, he finally fucking banned him.
🙄 I suggest stepping away from the computer and going outside
jordanlund@lemmy.world is absolutely friendly with the c/news team. I think he even used to be a mod there, if I remember from my time on .world.
I may be wrong, because I was banned from there months ago because I wasn’t aboard the Biden/Harris love train. And I’m STILL proud of my stance. :) lmao
But I had lots of interactions with him. He’s mostly good people, but he did take a lot of joy in my ban and made a special post about it and has a lot of influence admin and mods on .world.
I was banned from there months ago because I wasn’t aboard the Biden/Harris love train. And I’m STILL proud of my stance
Those subs were modded per instructions from DNC komissars
It was disgusting.
I’m confused I guess. You banned a lw mod, then got banned on a lw news instance, and you think it’s more than coincidence?
I guess it’d be hard to prove, but imo (which isn’t worth anything) I doubt that’s the case.
It turns out it was a coincidence, they even reverted the ban on me in the end too.
The two bans still strike me as a good example of archetypes of heavy-moderation action taken in different context. Shutting down a dissenting voice on a general/news board vs shutting down someone behaving badly in a more regulated space. I don’t even want to give the .world moderator who banned me a hard time, because I know how hard it can be trying to figure out what is going on in a conversation that just got reported by a bunch of people. The fact that they reverted it after pushback was enough for me, and hopefully it sets an example for the future.
There’s definitely a separate discussion to be had about the tendency to shut down dissent from the left in centrist/liberal spaces and characterizing it instead as ‘right-wing/russian trolling.’ Maybe that’s more comforting than sitting with the criticism, but I don’t think it’s a productive way to approach political conversations.
