Not that many people use email much anymore, but as you often need an email address to sign up for other shit… anyway, I need a better option than gmail, I’m sure you can appreciate why. Email is so old school at this point that most of the time I don’t even think about it anymore.

Anyway, I need some email options that aren’t gmail or otherwise attached to a billionaire. I’m not really interested in non-email methods of communication, I’m specifically asking about email.

Thanks in advance.

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I’m currently moving (for the last year) from Gmail to mailbox.org.

They have a free level, but I wanted aliases, so I pay $30/year. Worth every penny.

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Been with MailBox.org for ages and it’s been absolutely fantastic. Proton had very limited offerings at the time, but even now I haven’t felt the need to move.

I think the most basic email offering is €1/month.

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I’ve been there for several years as well. Works great, and I get pretty much no spam.

At one point they offered “envelope with money sent via postal service” as an anonymous payment option, IDK if they still do that.

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Same here. Moved from Outlook to Mailbox a year ago and I’m happy with it, using mostly custom domains with catch all. I havo also recently enabled encryption which wasn’t hard to integrate into my mail clients at all. They dont have a free plan, but the cheapest plan is 1€/month (which doesn’t allow custom domains).

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I moved from proton to mailbox a few months ago and so far I’m really happy with it too

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Who’s not using email? I’m green with envy, but I think it’s a ludicrous premise to think not many people are using email.

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I also wondered what kind of rock OP lives under. I use email every day, multiple times per day. I probably send more emails than texts.

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i don’t use email much at all, only signups at a few places.

at work, communications with my coworker or clients is by phone or in person, not email or very rarely sms. email is mainly the required communications with the state (business registrations, taxes and shit) and invoices and receipts for things we use or buy online. plus lots of spam. lots and lots of spam. oh, and scams. lots of scammers and phishers too.

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Most if not all non-paid options will have privacy concerns similar to gmail, so you’ll have to pay. I pay for Proton, and though I’m not thrilled about some of the political bullshit their CEO has been up to recently, I think I’ll stay with them for now since they’re still good for privacy, and their other services are solid. They’re also very upfront about what they charge and why, and I think they still plan to transition to a non-profit.

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There’s also Tuta if you’re looking for an alternative.

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It’s not just the pro-trump stuff though, there’s also the case of being very pro-cop in that they helped get info about a french activist against their will or settings, we believe.

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That definitely sounds concerning, do you have a link or anything? Any company would have to comply with a legal court order regardless of their preference or ideology, so how they comply comes down to the amount of information they store and for how long. Just saying, the fact that they helped the cops (as much as I hate the cops in general) doesn’t necessarily mean they handed everything over or volunteered anything they weren’t legally obligated to provide. But I don’t know the specifics of the case you mentioned.

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Yes, about this case of I remember well they provided the IP address of the activists.

Any email provider has to follow the law and will have to provide the information they have. The only diffidence of that in the case of proton the information they have is the IP address you used to connect to their service. For another provider the information might be all the content of your email.

The imprompted praise to Trump from proton CEO on the other hand is more concerning.

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God, I can’t believe people are still spreading this nonsense. Proton complied with a legal warrant. Name another company on the planet that will receive a legal warrant and refuses to comply. I’ll wait.

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k.

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And the fact that their internal information even can reveal any information indicates a lack of true privacy. Here is an example of setting up a system so you cannot comply.

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sure, they must have shut down all services instead, that would have been the real solution!!

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Unironically this.

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I’m an anarchist so inherently against governments etc. So I would, I don’t comply with cops of my own free will.

Having something taken from me against my will is not complying.

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I don’t think leaving Proton due to their CEO approving Trump is that reasonable

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While I’m using Proton rn, I’m planning to migrate to Posteo with Addy.io for aliases. However they all cost money. If you mean free email that’s not tie to a billionaire, I can’t think one off my head. You can achieve “free” by hosting your own email server as it sounds you’re intended for receiving only, but the electricity still cost some, plus you are doning free labor to make sure it is happy.

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While we’re at it, anyone got a good site for temporary addresses that are basically used exactly once? And ideally don’t immediately get flagged as spam addresses.

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To DIY you can buy your own domain and attach it to any paid email provider, then you get an infinite amount of temporary addresses. e.g. if you own @ rumschlumpel.blahblahblah.org then you can create abc@ , xyz@ , abc123@ , etc. as much as you like.

Just about all the email provider suggestions in this thread have a paid tier that you can configure your own domain with.

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To add to this, Bitwarden integrates with a few of them so you can automatically generate a unique email on the fly when creating an entry for a site. (docs link)

I use Fastmail and use my own domain for about 90% of stuff. Sites I don’t even want to have my domain get a random.gibberish@fastmail.com email autogenerated from the BW extension. It’s pretty convenient once all setup.

For literal one-time use, I’ve generally had good luck with 10minutemail. I’m not sure how much it gets flagged as spam right away these days, but the nice thing about it being free is you can always try and find out for a particular site.

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TIL about the Bitwarden integration! Thanks!

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Mailbox.org already provides 3 different aliases even at the lowest tier, but I’ve already filled those with non-temporary aliases and I don’t really want to pay three times as much just for throwaway-aliases …

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https://www.byom.de/trashmails/

Decent functionality, and it didn’t get flagged most of the time I used it.

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