Summary

French President Emmanuel Macron urged Europe to “wake up” and strengthen its defense in response to Donald Trump’s second-term inauguration.

Highlighting potential U.S. policy shifts, including reduced support for Ukraine and a military pivot to the Pacific, Macron emphasized Europe’s need to reduce reliance on U.S. security.

He called for increased European military spending, robust aid to Ukraine, and guarantees for its security post-war.

Macron’s remarks underscore concerns about U.S. disengagement and aim to prompt Europe to play a larger role in global security.

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Macron referred to expected changes in Washington’s foreign policy, citing the need to reduce reliance on the United States for security.

As an American, I also urge Europe to reduce its reliance on the US, for security or anything else. You’re going to want to insulate yourselves as much as possible from my unbelievably stupid, and potentially very dangerous country.

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I feel for you. People just voted in power kind of asshats their grandparents fought a war against.

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This is what gets me. I remember the war stories my grandparents told, I remember the nightmares my grandfathers had. These boomers are throwing away a country their PARENTS fought for, to people their PARENTS fought against. It only took one fucking generation to brainwash them.

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The thing is, it was a close one that first time around. Prior to Pearl Harbor there was a small but strong pro-Nazi movement in the US. That’s part of why the US was being moderately hands off during the start of WW2. Sure the US was shipping supplies to the UK, but in the grand scheme of things that wasn’t much.

Japan really fucked up by attacking the US as there’s a pretty strong argument to be made that that one action determined the outcome of WW2. There’s an alternate history out there where Pearl Harbor didn’t happen and the US either never took part in WW2 or else entered far too late to make a difference and the Axis powers ultimately won.

Turns out the pro-Nazi faction in the US never really went anywhere, they just got quiet for nearly a century. Lets hope we can shut them up this time again.

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Only hope is that current bunch appear to be morons and sycophants, but they can pave the way to something much worse. Honor and dignity has disappeared from politics and surprising many stabilising things were reliant on that. Now everything goes and Trump will go like a Duracell rabbit.

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That’s social cycle theory. Over the generations, people respond to circumstances and do things a bit differently, setting the next generations up for different circumstances and where the lessons from the past are forgotten. It follows a typical pattern that humanity is doomed to repeat.

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Don’t think it’s the boomers. Gen x and millennials.

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I’m quite literally feeling sick about this. My grandpa fought these fuckers, only for my family to elect them again.

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WW2 - Democratic America and Communist Russia, joining together to fight Fascist Europe

whatever this shit is - Fascist Russia and Fascist America scheming over how they’ll divide the world.

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1 point

You’re missing China, Israel, and to a lesser extent, Iran.

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It’s really not th same at all, but good fear mongering.

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As a Canadian I urge the same for Canada.

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Canada into EU. You are are already a better scandi country than denmark.

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6 points

I’ll go a step further. Do you have any idea how wet Trump would get about invading Europe?

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We’re at day 2. Europe sat on its hands with a wait and see attitude. Meanwhile, In Washington, Trumps allies were throwing hands into seig heil gestures…

Europe needs to prepare for war, if Donny’s date with Putin doesn’t result in Putin fucking off, then no one is going to stop Russia, but Europe.

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if Donny’s date with Putin doesn’t result in Putin fucking off

Does anyone realistically think Trump being elected would do anything but further play into Putin’s hands?

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Republicans.

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Republicans don’t give a shit about anything other than owning the libs. That’s their entire ideology.
Trump’s ideology is doing whatever it takes to give Donald Trump the most amount of power.

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47 points

Shame, but i have to agree with macron on this one.

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5 points

Even european terrible politican is nowhere near american avarage.

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That is true, depressing and funny at the same time somehow

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33 points

Should have thought of that when he blocked the socialist plurality from choosing their prime minister, forcing again a right wing clown.

I surely hope the French can resist le pen

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Wasn’t he also one of the first European leaders to congratulate Trump on his victory?

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Strategically, this was probably the right move. At that point, the results were in. We can’t change what happened, only where we go from here. Kissing his ass is a case of Tragedy of the Commons.

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The word “diplomacy” has its roots in Latin from thousands of years ago

It’s a fairly basic concept

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