Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel.
The US president said he wanted Gaza residents to move to neighbouring nations, and that they could be displaced “temporarily or could be long-term”, after a phone call with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Saturday.
“I said to him: I’d love you to take on more because I’m looking at the whole Gaza Strip right now and it’s a mess, it’s a real mess. I’d like him to take people,” Trump said, when asked about the call.
He also suggested Egypt as a destination for Gaza residents, and said he would raise the issue with President Abdel Fatah al-Sisi on Sunday.
All these comments thinking this is a gotcha moment for people who didn’t vote for the Democrats.
Biden supported the last 15 months of genocide, supplied, the weapons, political cover and support.
The only reason Gaza hasn’t been totally emptied is because Egypt refused to accept millions of refugees.
Trump is only saying what the Democrats believe but were too disingenuous to admit.
Trump is suggesting ethnic cleansing. Here’s how it’s really the Democrats’ fault.
Fuck off.
Democrats commit genocide and suggest ethnic cleansing, here is how they are better than trump.
This is the US position since 1980 so maybe direct your anger at people who is committing genocide instead of blaming people who are trying to change on going genocide.
Which Democrat said we should “clean out Gaza?” Which one wants their son-in-law to have first dibs on the new beachfront property once all the Palestinians are gone?
They are also better than Trump on literally every domestic issue you can possibly name.
The two sides are not the same no matter how much you want to pretend they are.
That’s rude.
Blinken and his senile boss got told by Egypt and Jordan to fuck off over accepting refugees back in November 2023. Jordan threatened war if that happened.
The Democrats are Zionist puppets just like Republicans. The only difference is Republicans don’t shed crocodile tears.
Congrats leftists! You solved Palestine! We just won’t have one!
Yes because under Biden the thing was thriving… America lesser evil political system is making you so braindead it is crazy
So is your solution to give the country to the right and hope for revolution? Super cool for all the people here and abroad who have to suffer under revved up American fascism, including Gaza. Counting on that very slow train maybe pulling into the station seems like a solid plan.
I’m just saying blaming the voter for not voting instead of the political offer or the people in power and system is braindead
They weren’t going to put immigrants in camps. I as a gay man didn’t have to worry about the sane had Harris won.
But at least some Marxists have a sense of moral superiority
Are you kidding me? You don’t see Democrats all over this thread throwing their moral superiority in our faces?
It was going to be a longer, more drawn-out genocide. Which is hardly an improvement.
Every single spared life, every single stab at a better life would have been an improvement
He did exactly the same as I would expect from Biden or kamala. Disrespect for Palestinians is bipartisan this past election had no bearing on the issue
From what I gather, you’re making the insinuation that the people who refused to vote for Kamala due to her (and Biden’s) support of Israel are responsible for Trump and his heavy-handed approach.
I’d retort by stating that Israel has killed near 100k Palestinians and reduced most of the territory to rubble all while Biden’s administration had been sending bombs, guns, tanks, missiles, and money.
The main difference between Trump and Biden on this issue is how loud and open they are about it.
Is there a difference between discretely supporting apartheid or openly supporting apartheid? Probably, in an intellectual sense. But what difference does it make to the tens of thousands of Gazan widows?
Seems odd to blame leftists instead of the people supporting, supplying, and carrying out the genocide.
As leftists like to say to justify their one-sided attacks against Democrats: “Republicans are going to Republican”.
Leftists know this and still decided to do all they can to make sure they give the reins of power to Republicans yet again to “punish” Democrats when all their privileged white asses are doing is punishing lgbtq, poc, and now Palestinians despite their use of their issue to justify not voting Democrat.
But no war but class war right?
If you want to enter a house, do you use the door or the brick wall? In this scenario, the republicans are the brick wall and the democrats are the door. In theory, the door is more willing to allow entrance. How you’re framing this is that using the door is an attack on the door. This is the same attitude conservatives use when people critique the US where they’ll respond with “America: love it or leave it”.
As for punishing minorities, I’d take democrats more seriously about their claims of standing up for minorities if they weren’t so quick to ignore them or throw them under the bus. It was Palestinians and others in Arab communities who were driving the uncommitted movement. It was a movement that simply asked that people mark uncommitted during the primaries where Biden was running practically unopposed. This is the lightest of resistance ever, did not threaten the presidential election, and clearly delivered the message that people were displeased with Biden. What did democrats do in response? Screamed at the minorities and preemptively blamed them for sowing division and continued pushing Biden until his debate performance made it apparent to even party diehards that Biden was not going to win. However, the party diehards still wanted to continue his policies, so they saddled Harris with the burden of continuing his garbage policies. Democrats simply did not listen to voter concerns during the election.
You’re saying that Palestinians are “now” being punished, but this only shows your ignorance of over a year of intensified genocide and the decades-long campaign of ethnic cleansing Palestinians have had to endure with the support of both US parties. It’s less that Palestinians are “now” being punished and more like democrats are blaming everyone but themselves like they always do, even though they had the power to make a difference. Curiously, they did not use that power. I would be interested in your explanation for why democrats chose not to.
The number of people trying to argue that not voting was legitmate is baffling.
The Gazans aren’t going to leave, it is their land. What will Trump do? Biden already destroyed 60% of buildings, 92% of homes, 88% of schools, 68% of cropland, 68% of road networks, while only 50% of hospitals are partially functioning.
Gazans will rebuild with or without US support. The vast majority of the world recognizes their right to self determination. The US is the odd one here and with Trump at the helm it is increasingly isolated.
Fuck off already, people like you are the very reason this and much more fun is happening
People like you didn’t standup to stop genocide because the democrat thought rightly it is not an issue for you.
Democrat refused to secure Michigan, or learn anything from Clinton loss, and hand everything to " a threat to democracy "
Democrat did nothing to limit the influence of oligarchy on the state, and didn’t bother addressing basic stuff like raising minimum wage to an acceptable rate. And many other things.
So you should direct your anger at the party that didn’t give a damn about " greatest threat to democracy"
Congrats American leftists, this is what you wanted. You got played and it was so damn obvious. “But Biden…” well enjoy Trump.
The American right united and the American left splintered into little self made groups with special labels and began fighting, hating and rejecting each other.
“I didn’t vote trump, i just refused to vote Biden!” Well you got your choice then, so shut the fuck up and eat it. You think you hurt the democrats by losing them the election? You think they care or will lose money?
You guys essentially chopped off your own foot and are happy cause you sprayed blood on someone you didn’t like.
Ps: American leftists have no fucking clue what a leftist is. Hating and calling fascist on everyone who is slightly right or even left of you is not being a leftist.
I guess it’s time for all the “protest voters” to either admit they never gave a shit about Palestine or admit they fell for Russian propaganda.
Of course that’s if they remember about Palestine. A shiny red ball might have rolled past and distracted them.
@generalemergency,
Dnc centrists who wouldnt let any possible supporters of Palestinians into the democratic party convention are the real unsung heros here, right?
Do your posts like this one make you feel better about yourself? Thats why you’re posting isnt it. You told yourself you ‘held your nose’ while voting but you didnt really hold your nose at all. You were happy to drop every semblence of basic human morality and dignity in order to win-- and then you lost anyway.. Now you’re angry at those on your own side who didnt shit their own bed and roll around in it like you did.
To win at all in the future and reclaim the demographic losses, the dems need to admit that what was done in Plaestine was wrong. They need to admit Biden and Harris both were not doing their job and not representing the working class, but were simply chasing corporate and special interest campaign dollars. If the party can do that it might survive. Otherwise its probably dead, becuase No one thinks the democrats stand for anything, and the rage evident at the elites related to Luigi’s prosecution is increasingly the response toward out of touch dem leaders. No one supports corporatists so get your shit together.
It’s genuinely saddening to see you’re still here parroting these lines after the bots have long since packed up and gone home.
The party with the best option to beat trump is still walking around with no future because it has its head up its own arse. They cant admit that abandoning the working class and embracing zionist murder for some campaign cash is going to keep them from winning in the future. And Hasbara is still paying its trolls, clearly.
What makes you think bots left? They are probably low cost to run once theyve been set up. By bots maybe you mean the opinions you dont like dont post as much? Yeah everyone feels defeated and hopeless. Most of my friends wont read the news anymore. I dont blame them.
It’s funny you think there will be legitimate elections in 4 years. I mean Republicans are already pushing ways to give Trump a third term. So like, congrats on having Gaza screwed even harder while simultaneously throwing away any semblance of democracy?
At least the corporate corrupt Dems gave a small window for changing things democratically while not screwing over Trans people in the USA as well.
By abstaining you allowed the greater evil to prevail, not prevented any evil from occuring.
Well, at least you can whine about how other people voted, and that’ll make you feel better, I guess.
By abstaining you allowed the greater evil to prevail
I’m heartened to hear that you at least understand that Biden/Harris was evil. Its a good start.
Dnc centrists who wouldnt let any possible supporters of Palestinians into the democratic party convention are the real unsung heros here, right?
The guy you’re responding to never said that. You’ve discredited your entire comment in the first sentence and there’s no reason to even bother reading the rest of whatever you wrote.
My dood, it is a two party system. Both parties sucked shit when it came to this issue, and the DNC lost votes due to this fact (as one side seems to like some genocide anyway). This issue across both awful parties is implied in the first post and is countered in the “discredited” comment, you know with the whole “held your nose” line. Guess you did not read that far…
You don’t have to agree with the statement, but if you read that “discredited” comment you would see both of you; Know the worse party of the two won, and more importantly one of you seems to have an idea on how not to have the same thing happen again.
You were so worried looking at bed A you didn’t think you’d be forced into bed B
Watching you comment, I despair that dems didnt learn a damned thing from this election loss.
It’s time for people to understand that the blue and red party in america are the same shit and voting someone else or not supporting the government is the only way to make a change.
Voting for one of the clowns that got <1,000,000 votes isn’t going to accomplish anything.
The irony of you losers high handing people. You lot lost this last election.
Who do you think you are? You’re right down here in the mud with the rest of us. The party brand is in absolute tatters and trust in it has never been lower. Heck of a job. And then you try to lecture people? Its absurd.
If you voted for genocide…that was a mistake.
I didn’t vote for genocide. What did you do?
