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They are going to be stuck rehiring people that resign as consultants because they won’t have the people to run the legally required programs in place.

It will end up costing more money for the government.

I have little hope that the people that actually vote will even remember how fucked all this is two years from now.

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152 points

They’ll require that consultants are hired through a company owned by a Trump subsidiary and pocket a percentage of the pay.

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56 points

this one gets it. This is exactly how Viktor Orban’s system works.

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29 points

They’ll also ensure those who get hired, share the maga viewpoints.

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2 points

or that they are too afraid to voice their anti maga viewpoints

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36 points

I dunno, how does 8 months pay sound more appealing than a pension?

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11 points

Most federal civilian employees are now on a 401(k) equivalent. Air Traffic likes to mention how they are one of the ones left with a pension, but clearly, nothing is guaranteed.

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We get both. A 401k equivalent called TSP (Thrift Savings Plan) and FERS. People hired after a certain year ( i wanna say 2011 or 2013) pay substantially more into FERS than people hired before (less than 1% vs 4.3% of pay). I don’t expect either to pay out in my lifetime tbh.

TSP is also unique in that you can take a loan from it directly, not using it as colateral. Any interest paid goes right back into your TSP.

This is also an option if jumping ship:

https://www.opm.gov/frequently-asked-questions/retire-faq/leaving-the-government/how-do-i-apply-to-have-my-retirement-contributions-refunded-to-me-in-a-one-time-payment/

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I’m pretty sure the idea is to get rid of dissenters in an easy and legal way, while keeping those like-minded individuals who will toe the line.

I think the idea is to scare dissenters into quitting, because otherwise their position may get downsized otherwise and they lose out on any benefits and pension.

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4 points

Just think of how you could retire if you put all of that into Trump and Malania coins. Heck, maybe even a Baron coin!

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11 points

“legally required programs”? What law? Show me where that matters. Who will enforce such laws when all of the people running these programs are gone?

I know why Trump appeals to so many people. He’s the politician/business who acknowledged that rules are made up by fallible humans and can be re-written. The problem is, when we have similar politicians on the left who try to break the system for the working class the liberals agree that it’s terrible in the same way that they agree that trump is terrible, but the oligarchs don’t see an avenue for profit and so they fight against them as well.

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It’s as simple as you need people to actually enforce laws and carry out programs laid out by Congress.

I don’t think you understand how laws work. The laws I work to to support were promulgated in the 1970s after rivers were lighting on fire.

They are complicated to enforce because the companies that cause environmental harm can afford high powered attorneys and lobbyists to prevent them from being enforced.

There is no one working on behalf of the american people to try to meet the intent of many of these laws we rely on - such as those to keep our environment, air we breathe, water we drink, relatively safe. Other than those in the government that have the authority to do so.

I don’t know how all of the other various agencies work specifically, but that’s generally what people are doing in the government

You don’t seem to understand this so you don’t value it. I think once it gets more fucked up, you will. This isn’t a liberal or conservative thing. The laws I work with were put on the books by Nixon. This is a rich stealing from you issue. Not left/right.

But maybe you are just troll, probably.

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I don’t think you know how laws work, and I think you missed my point. And you even re-stated it. The laws exist, they just dont get enforced for myriad reasons. High-priced lawyers, complicated enforcement, burden of proof etc.

And at the end of the day, all laws are made up. Often, as you mentioned, the laws are in place with an intent that doesn’t get met. There isn’t anything from stopping a president from just upending the law and it’s up to the people in charge of upholding the laws the correct whatever shit gets thrown at the wall which we agree is often very laborious and often has bad actors working against it.

There’s very little difference (in the way that the actions function in the real world) between a written law and declaring another set of rules through sheer willpower and bullying except that hopefully over a relatively long time the rules get corrected back to the written law.

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Lol, “rehiring”. What if I told you that he doesn’t intend to replace them?

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If they toss in health insurance for a they will get some people resigning. Those that were planning on retiring in less than 8 months.

Resign now and get 8 months of pay or retire in 4 months and get 4 months of pay… Hmmmmm…

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The official email reads more as you keep doing your job as you have been through the end of the fiscal year and you can resign. We won’t fire you before that. If you don’t voluntarily resign we might fire you before that. Isn’t a guaranteed 8 months of work better than being fired in three months.

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Putin’s (very) useful idiot is now in the process of completing his work destroying the US federal government. Hope state governments can pick up the slack, because they’ll have to.

EDIT: And, surprise! Red states are more dependent on federal funding than blue states are.

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13 points

He wants to destroy the European Union, so it’s not surprising he wants to destroy American Union as well.

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66 points

I’m guessing most Federal workers aren’t stupid enough to believe Trump would actually pay the buyout amount. Especially after Presidential “advisor” Elon failed to pay Twitter severance.

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44 points

A Trump never pays his debts

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7 points

Chaos is not a pit. Chaos is a ladder.

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4 points

As a federal employee, you have a very optimistic view of most federal employees. Theres a sizeable number that will happily slob the knob if the orange one told them to.

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55 points

It’s a good thing this guy always pays his debts otherwise some might think this is a dirt trick.

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3 points

he always sometimes pays when it’s with someone else’s money.

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Important information sharing from https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/12627783 !

Someone on reddit pointed out there’s an OPM rule that makes max payout at something like $25k. Let me go dig it up real quick.

Because that means a lot of people wouldn’t get paid the full amount and Trump is absolutely the kind of person who would use shit like that as an excuse to not keep paying out. I wouldn’t trust this deal because based on stuff like this it doesn’t pass the sniff test.

Apologies for (slight retch) a reddit link:

https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1ice9ml/trump_administration_offering_buyouts_to_nearly/m9pya4z/

zedextol:

Per OPM, the federal government can’t legally pay more than $25k, pre-tax. This is another scam. Trump is the literal master of grift. You think he’s gonna make good on this debt after years of not paying his bills?

Edit: Source below

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/workforce-restructuring/voluntary-separation-incentive-payments/

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