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Journald can pound a bag of dicks, it’s the worst.

After a decade of justified hatred against systemd and avoiding it whenever I can I finally found a reason why I might start using it, so I will

Still doesn’t mean that systemd is not bloatware with some horrible features built by a horrible main developer

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Wanna explain?

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journalctl and binary logging are annoying bullshit.

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Amen.

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I dislike journalctl more than systemd. And I don’t get what’s the advantage of systemctl vs previous solutions, why would that of all things make one reconsider.

I miss rc.local and crontabs. Now if you excuse me I have a cloud to yell at.

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The only advantage I see is that it actually seems to keep a better handle on the status of the process/service. The old-style unit scripts would often get out of sync and not realize that a process had died, or if they did they would repeatedly respawn a service that would just die again. Maybe that was less of a problem in later years than I experienced earlier, but it was there.

The whole init.d system felt very ad-hoc with every script working a little bit differently, giving different output styles, etc.

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Fair enough.

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5 points

runit entering the chat

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You had me at “declarative”.

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Would you elaborate? Is systemd config not declarative?

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They’re saying it is, and they like it because it is.

Its a meme phrase.

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Ahh thanks, my English is not so sharp.

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It is. The cracker in the second panel lists several benefits of systemd, including declarative config.

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