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Email, as far as im aware there isn’t some alternative email standard (messaging services, whatsapp, signal, sms, etc do not count imo as I believe they serve a different purpose than email)

DNS, while there are alternative root servers, they still fundamentally rely on the dns protocol.

TCP/IP, when the internet was first starting, this was not the only standard in use, but now it is (to my knowledge).

I thought about this for longer than I should’ve for a comment on a random post, but this is all I could think of lol.

edit: grammar

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TCP/IP isnt the only standard in use even today. UDP/IP is the other big one and there’s a few smaller protocols hanging around like utp.

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Ah, I shouldve been more clear. I didnt just mean tcp specifically, I meant IP as a whole, for an example of a competing standard see x.25.

Funny enough, that wikipedia article mentions that x.25 is still in use by the aviation industry, and after a quick search it seems it is! So I guess Im still wrong lol.

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You can probably throw Ethernet in there as well then, unless there’s anyone out there rocking a Lemmy instance on token ring…

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Ipv4 vs ipv6 🫠

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fair enough!

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TCP/IP is not the same as TCP, and UDP/IP doesn’t exist

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Wat.

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Lol. Dont waste peoples time in the future thanks!

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We also have I2P now.

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that’s a different layer, it’s not transport but a network protocol. it “competes” with IP

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!! i was not aware of I2P. what a wonderful network.

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USB has worked pretty well IMO

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Yeah just don’t pay too close attention to the unofficial power delivery protocols.

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or the cursed double ended USB-A cables

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My main complaint about USB is the cables. There’s no way of knowing what standards and data speeds the cable may support.

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They’ve now, at least, released a standard set of markings. Basically, the data speed in Gb and the power capacity in Watts will be printed on the connector. Whether chinese suppliers will bother complying is another matter.

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Your typo makes your comment really confusing because it means the opposite of what you meant to write.

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“looks inside” meme with the “oh. oh no” meme spliced onto the end

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USB , mini USB, type C USB, iphone bs, do those not count?

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Not compared to what we had before usb

It used to be 100% proprietary for everything

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USB-C is the latest standard. Try buying a phone, mouse or headphones swith mini USB these days.

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Toilet paper rolls.

Somehow we settled on a pretty good size for toilet rolls, and there never seems to be a compatibility issue with holders.

At least not for households. Commercial products have their own things going on, but it doesn’t affect most people.

Is there a formal standard, or did we decide not to mess with good enough?

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We’ve got a 100 year old toilet roll holder, the spindle was turned on a lathe and the wooden cutout it sits in was hand carved. It is a poor fit for modern high sheet count rolls. We can’t stand to get rid of it so we just leave the roll outside of it until it is small enough to fit.

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I have a half-bath with a modern holder. When that roll is 75% consumed, I move it to the bathrooms with the older style.

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I like how you roll.

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When one roll is empty, have you considered rolling half of a new roll onto it?

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That sounds like a lot of fiddly work. Just sit a new roll on the back of the tank and use it until it fits.

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What’s the width like? Consistent with modern rolls, or no?

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Correct, width is the same. It can’t handle the diameter of modern jumbo rolls.

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You’re a machinist! Can’t you just like…make a better one? /s

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I actually have a wood lathe and all the other tooling to make one, not that I would.

I’ve been fixing the place up since August. It’s a farm that hasn’t been properly maintained in about 20 years.

I’m doing my best to build to the standard of the original owner and his son with modern materials and methods. It’s a humbling experience. Nothing is quite square but everything is built like it’s bomb proof. You couldn’t afford to build out of solid wood like they did. The joints and meets are also super tight, you can’t get a sheet of paper between roof boards on the barn in most places.

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This is a cool one I haven’t thought of before!

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There are many, I think. Like what other people have mentioned, sometimes the new standard is just better on all metrics.

Another common example is when someone creates something as a passion project, rather than expecting it to get used widely. It’s especially frustrating for me when I see people denigrate projects like those, criticizing it for a lack of practicality…

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The competing standards problem is mostly a problem of not actually talking to stakeholders. Most of these “universal standards” don’t cover some rare, specific, but very important, use cases.

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The way I see it, it’s not so much an issue of making something that’s better than the other standards. It’s really about getting your standard into actual use and hitting critical mass which makes all the other standards irrelevant.

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see also: NACS (yep that’s a Tesla plug in a standards agreement)

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Yeah. No standard covers all use cases. It’s just best to have one standard that makes a lot of compromises.

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