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“Gulf of Trump” just go for the gusto you fucking spinless pussies.

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39 points

I thought that name was already taken by the chasm in between his ears.

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11 points

“Gulf of this will bring down the price of eggs”

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I know it’s not deliberate, but phrases like ‘spineless pussies’ are why women don’t feel welcome on lemmy.

Is lemmy truly a left-leaning platform? Or is it yet another tech-bro circlejerk that cares more about the aesthetics of inclusivity? You all can’t have your cake and it eat it too.

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https://www.openstreetmap.org/

https://f-droid.org/packages/app.organicmaps/ or https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps

Organic Maps is a free Android & iOS offline maps app for travelers, tourists, hikers, and cyclists. It uses crowd-sourced OpenStreetMap data and is developed with love by the community. No ads, no tracking, no data collection, no crapware. 

https://f-droid.org/packages/net.osmand.plus/ or https://github.com/osmandapp/Osmand

This project aims at providing comfortable map viewing and navigation (routing) application for mobile devices. Particular stress lies with complete offline features (via pre-loaded offline map data) or economic internet usage.

https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/akylas.alpi.maps or https://github.com/Akylas/alpimaps

Alpi Maps is a map application to help you prepare and enjoy your hike! Get all the info you need before you go, then enjoy all the data offline during your hike.
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I used Organic Maps on my CalyxOS phone a few days ago to navigate a 200 mile car drive home to the Scottish Highlands, and it worked flawlessly. The first 50 miles were through parts of Fife that I was not familiar with. I left it on for the rest of the journey just to track my progress and test it out. Very impressed with it. Maps are detailed and downloaded to the device for offline use. I’ve finally managed to deGoogle my life completely and will never use another Google product or service again.

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5 points

What you use for email?

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I have my own website account for personal stuff, and all the other stuff that was going to my Gmail account is being redirected now to Disroot.org where I’m slowly changing the address over for each mail that comes in. I know Disroot is probably not the best, but it was free, had POP3 and IMAP support (I use IMAP on my phone and POP3 on my desktop) and it’s not used for anything too important.

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Hijacking this to plug contributing to OSM. Improving your local area is very rewarding and can pair well with some youtube binging. Take a look at your city and see if there are things you’re interested in working on.

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Except when it is frustrating and continually tries to send you through tiny “technically paved” service roads so you know anyone unfamiliar to the area would risk car damage because there is no way to mark a road as “low priority” or “only use if you live on that road”.

Street complete is very awesome though! Especially for updating local businesses.

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3 points

Does Google maps allow that? Does any map program?

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Are you referring to smoothness=bad or a narrow width? (I’m guessing you’ve been using StreetComplete to specify each.)

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That’s especially fun for those of us on motorcycles. I found a particularly horrible road to ride a sport touring bike on several years ago and would have loved this feature on osm.

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I am using Magic Earth for navigation. Any recommended companion iOS apps for contributing to OSM?

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Possibly not “companion” per se, but Every Door is available for iOS and MapComplete can run in browser. Go Map!! can provide more detailed editing.

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I love the app MagicEarth for turn by turn navigation GPS. It uses OSM!

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“Contains no known trackers” according to AuroraStore + free and no adds

https://www.magicearth.com/privacy/

will take a look, thanks

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For anyone wondering “where do they get their money?”

It’s from businesses who buy their SDK. They (allegedly) don’t sell any of your data

Magic Earth is free for all our end-users but we also have a paid Magic Earth SDK for business partners. For instance Selectric.de (a supplier for navigation solutions for ambulances and fire trucks), Smarter AI (developing ADAS systems) or Absolute Cycling (using the platform on bicycles). For more info on the SDK, you can check magiclane.com.

Bottom of their faq

I haven’t been able to test it out yet, but it seems pretty decent

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Magic Earth is proprietary, though. You can believe their privacy policy, but I have trouble believing any privacy policy if I can’t see the source code.

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Ios: https://apps.apple.com/app/id1007331679 https://apps.apple.com/app/id934850257

Also fun fact the official apple maps app is mostly based on OSM.

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people don’t degoogle to use apple instead

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Actually I think this is a pretty common thing. I know several people who use iPhones and other Apple products specifically to avoid the google alternatives.

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OpenStreetMap also needs to deal with this kind of thing. In this case, several people already tried to add it to the map in some form of other, but generally not as something to actually be shown. There is a looong discussion about it here https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571 . General opinion is that it is (or will be) “the official name that the US says it has”. In OSM you can invent tags for anything, so an object can have many names. Done like this, anyone using the data can still choose to give precedence to any “official US names that are not in common use yet”. Later it may be upgraded ased on if it becomes a common alternative name, just in the US, or maybe beyond. All those options can have their own special tag. And only very motivated data users will ever show it to map users. But if you do a search for Gulf of America, you will be able to find it.

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is there anything android auto compatible?

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159 points

Everyone report an error every day.

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68 points

Give it negative reviews

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Why? Google does this everywhere because naming is completely arbitrary and it makes sense to be up to date with current nomenclature. Poland changed name of Kaliningrad (Russian exclave that we border) to Królewiec (what it was called when it was part of Poland) in a similar manner to troll Russians and Google updated our maps as well. Apple didn’t in either case so you have options.

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Weird, google maps still shows it as Kaliningrad, along with the Cyrillic spelling.

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It’s local, same as Gulf of America which is still Gulf of Mexico for me because that’s the official name here.

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iirc it was not just to troll rusians, it was because it was found kalinin was a murderous psycho killing a lot of poles for the red army.

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You underestimate our need to troll Russians.

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Two reasons. Firstly, it’s the principle of the thing - fuck Google for sucking up to Orange Shitler. Secondly, because somebody, somewhere in Google gets to deal with the endless reporting - even if all that reaction is is to have to write a script to auto-ignore that exact thing because it keeps popping up and there’s nothing they can do to stop it.

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Why would Google make an exception to their global policy? Is it because America is special?

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“Completely arbitrary trolling”.

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Following whatever is the official version of country names and even country borders based on user location has been the thing for many years now. Google probably doesn’t care and doesn’t make the exception for the US.

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Pathetic. Hopefully the rest of the world doesn’t follow suit. Renaming it just for one of Trump’s ego trips is not a good reason.

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The rest of the world obviously will not follow suit, but foreign companies selling maps in the US will have to comply, so it is just another exception that need to be handled. Naming and boundary disputes between countries have existed for years, and map makers just make enough versions to satisfy every country.

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Actually, I’m unclear on that point - do foreign companies actually have to comply, or is it just limited to government communications and government-published maps (e.g. the USGS, etc.)?

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7 points

Google are doing it to kiss Trump’s incontinent ass.

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Only if the maps will be accessed from the US or sold in the US, and only for the US. This is my understanding of it anyways, the coming days will reveal more

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115 points

This is so pathetic by Google.

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59 points

They all bend the knee. Just wait until the persecution of political opposition becomes a thing.

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Has nothing to do with bending the knee. The executive order literally changed the official name of the Gulf in the U.S. This situation is ridiculous, but it is the new U.S. government that you need to complain about, not the people implementing or deferring to their decisions.

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Do. Not. Comply.

Giving in is what gives them the power.

I absolutely will call out people who think it’s ok to just go along with the new fascist regime.

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International bodies of water tend to be named by… International governing bodies.

That said, Google’s choices about which country to rely on has… Some real-world ramifications. Like the very… shall we say, “open to interpretation” border between India and Pakistan. Or, China and India’s border.

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